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Title: This ain't nothing new.
Post by: Scott & Heather on December 24, 2014, 08:14:03 AM
Why is this guy getting so much attention for a "breakthrough" concept that we've been using in the bus world for years. It's called a generator, battery bank, and controller. Simple. But in this article it's touted as cutting edge. *shaking head*

http://spectrum.ieee.org/energywise/aerospace/military/hybrid-generator-would-cut-military-base-fuel-costs-in-half


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Title: Re: This ain't nothing new.
Post by: TomC on December 24, 2014, 08:18:54 AM
Anything for the military has to be simple enough for teenagers-many without high school education to operate. Plus be "military tough". Having a system that is automatic is truly amazing. Good Luck, TomC
Title: Re: This ain't nothing new.
Post by: bevans6 on December 24, 2014, 08:50:13 AM
I think the breakthrough is in militarized efficiency.  They tout the Lithium Ion battery technology and the use of silicon carbide power electronics in the inverters, plus the use of small engines running at peak efficiency and so on.  Also discussing the use of capacitors instead of batteries, for very fast storage and retrieval of energy.  Similar to what is being used in Formula One's current hybrid power units.  I think the building blocks are more common than the application to military environments, few people in the real world are combining all of the pieces today.  Some are, I would expect, but a nice tan colored unit on a trailer that is GI Joe tough is pretty new.

Brian
Title: Re: This ain't nothing new.
Post by: Scott & Heather on December 24, 2014, 09:49:17 AM
True.


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Title: Re: This ain't nothing new.
Post by: bevans6 on December 24, 2014, 10:35:31 AM
You know what, this is a great example of why I love this board.  I learn new stuff all the time.  so far I have learned that silicon carbide mosfets and power handling devices are just now moving into commercial availability, have lower internal resistance for greater efficiency, up to 1100 degrees F operational temperatures (four times higher than "normal" devices. and up to ten times the voltage switching capacity.  Think of a Magnum 4000 that weighs 5 lbs instead of 50 lbs.

Brian
Title: Re: This ain't nothing new.
Post by: Scott & Heather on December 25, 2014, 12:13:33 PM
Quote from: bevans6 on December 24, 2014, 10:35:31 AM
You know what, this is a great example of why I love this board.  I learn new stuff all the time.  so far I have learned that silicon carbide mosfets and power handling devices are just now moving into commercial availability, have lower internal resistance for greater efficiency, up to 1100 degrees F operational temperatures (four times higher than "normal" devices. and up to ten times the voltage switching capacity.  Think of a Magnum 4000 that weighs 5 lbs instead of 50 lbs.

Brian

* crickets *

I didn't understand a thing you just said haha


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Title: Re: This ain't nothing new.
Post by: bevans6 on December 25, 2014, 12:48:57 PM
It comes from a mis-spent adulthood focused on things that made money instead of happiness.  Now focused on things that make happiness instead of money...

Brian
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Post by: babell2 on January 01, 2015, 01:24:38 PM
Geez I guess we are all microgrids now supporting mini bases of power consumption. Who would of guessed?
Title: Re: This ain't nothing new.
Post by: HB of CJ on January 01, 2015, 02:52:32 PM
Wow!  Except for the naggy little fact that it probably costs 10 times more than it should, (because it is military) and MIGHT just be used along with lots of other fancy over priced stuff to ONLY destroy things and kill people, then everything else is fine.  Yikes!  If this must be done, it might be better just to burn some more Jet Fuel?  Just me.  HB of CJ (old coot) Happy New Year!