We finally bought a place to park on our rare times at home and a place to put "stuff" we have stuffed every where. We closed on Tuesday. We should be there in about 10 days to pull the bus in the first time. It is two lots (about 1.6 acres) with a 64x30 pole barn built in 1982 with a concrete floor and a 14' door. I have posted a few pictures below. If you are interested in reading the whole convoluted story about how we arrived here and viewing more pictures you can do that http://www.boggsblogs.com/2014/12/introducing-lazy-od-ranch.html (http://www.boggsblogs.com/2014/12/introducing-lazy-od-ranch.html).
Davy
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Through the years we have parked at a church when we are home. The barn we are buying is right next to the church. You can see it all in the Google shot below. The bus and tent trailer were parked at the church when the bird snapped this picture this summer.
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Awsome ;D Nice to have your own place again...
Looks great, I still need to raise my header on my barn to get the bus in.
Every barn we looked at needed the header raised or the whole roof raised. If the door was tall enough then it was usually too much barn for us. This header is right at 14' and as you can see in this blurry picture the rafters in the center are 12-18 inches taller.
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I have not been home to measure them yet. I should be able to raise the bus at least 10 inches to work underneath, properly blocked of course.
Davy
That is going to be a great bus barn!! Plenty of room all around.
Awesome!
I love a "good barn find!"
;D BK ;D
I just realized that I did not post here when we arrived "home" to our new barn with the bus in December. We were home 10-12 days and it was so nice to be parked inside and away from the wind.
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My wife backed in the barn as I guided her in. The door is a full 14' tall. It also has an 11' 8" tall by nearly 15' wide sliding door on the side at the back of the barn. The rafters in the center are 17'.
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Looking closely it is easy to see it is a 33 year old pole barn but it was built pretty well in the beginning. It was built without a concrete floor and the floor was poured at different times by different tenants. Some of it is not the best and will probably be replaced eventually but where the bus sets is very good. The electric is in pretty good order. I tackled several projects in the few days that I was home including trimming trees and hauling gravel outside, lots of shelving, a work bench and two 50 amp RV plugs, one inside and one out.
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We left December 26th and we only plan to be home one week in May, one week in August and then back in December, so not much time for improvements.
It is great that the barn is close to my parents and my brothers. Some one is out there nearly every day using the barn so that is great. The roof is probably original and will have to be replaced this year. I was hoping to get a few years out of it but it rained while we were home and I was enlightened. I was hoping for overhead doors as my first project but that can wait on the new roof.
Davy
Davy,
I was reading your story and looking at the pictures. You probably already know this. When you replace the roofing metal be sure to put some type of insulation under it. I made the mistake of not insulating when I had my shop built. (thought I would do it later) When it frosts and the temperature warms up quickly the frost under the roof melts and it rains inside.
Ken
It appears to be partially insulated, my first job would be to fully insulate. My 1800 SF garage is insulated well enough to enable me to ignore having to "winterize" during cold times in Utah and allows me to work on the coach when I wish.>>>Dan
Nice coach and barn
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Thanks guys. The roof is currently shingle but I do intend to replace with metal. I am sure the friend doing it will know, since he does metal for a living, but I will make sure to mention the insulation under it. I was not aware of that.
There is quite a bit of insulation stuffed here and there in the walls but it is haphazard and not near complete. I plan to finish that eventually. It is on the long, long list.
Davy
Congrats on such a find! I had to give up on finding a building for my bus and just bought a house in a city that will allow me to build a large garage for my bus. The bus garage I really want to build will cost about $55,000. No pole barns allowed because I don't have five acres. I was unwilling to drive another twenty miles a day to a city that allow pole barns.
Congrats Davy, there should be such a thing as a bus barn celebration, when a bus nut gets a barn! Lvmci...
Quote from: belfert on February 08, 2015, 01:42:31 PM
Congrats on such a find! I had to give up on finding a building for my bus and just bought a house in a city that will allow me to build a large garage for my bus. The bus garage I really want to build will cost about $55,000. No pole barns allowed because I don't have five acres. I was unwilling to drive another twenty miles a day to a city that allow pole barns.
The problem I was running into was that I was not allowed to build a barn any where in our area without building a house first. We found great pieces of property but we do not need a house right now. Once this is paid for we want to build a small fully handicap accessible house for my daughter that travels with us. This property with the old barn already on it was tailor made for me.
QuoteCongrats Davy, there should be such a thing as a bus barn celebration, when a bus nut gets a barn! Lvmci...
That is a great idea. We are going to set our tent up in conjunction with the church next door and have revival in May while the metal roof is going on the barn. Y'all come!
Davy
I'm just going through removing all the ceiling insulation in my large shed. It is around 3500 square feet, 12 foot ceiling with a thick poured concrete floor. My problem is condensation - the floor stays so cold that the building will have an internal temp of 70 degrees in July, when the outside temp is in the 80's and high humidity. That means it can literally rain inside from condensation on the vapor barrier under the insulation, and anything stored inside is permanently wet. I'm removing all the ceiling insulation (the building was heated all winter when it was a working boat building enterprise) and putting some large vents in the roof to encourage air flow inside that should help reduce the condensation and warm the floor up quicker.
Brian
youtube.com/watch?v=itSs8SYvpbM (http://youtube.com/watch?v=itSs8SYvpbM) We keep our 47 in the old Strick Trailer production floor. Its been repurposed as storage and work space.
That's an awesome building and a cool bus.
Davy
Glad you like Dave. closest thing to riding/driving in a museum. Tom
Congrats!!! What a find!!
So, had you been eying it saying "wouldn't it be nice to have that" or did you find it by chance?
- Enjoy!
Quote from: Newbob on February 11, 2015, 07:51:51 AM
Congrats!!! What a find!!
So, had you been eying it saying "wouldn't it be nice to have that" or did you find it by chance?
- Enjoy!
Question for me, Newbob?
If so, Yes, as in "wouldn't it be nice to have that." When we are home at Christmas or a week or two through the year, we have parked at a church near all of my family. This barn and property is right next door to the church. The first time we parked there in 2008 I noticed the barn and thought it would be a great place to have for the bus.
I contacted the owner a few times but she had no interest in selling. She was a widow and had rented it to others since the late 90's. Her last renter was there for seven years and was a great guy and used the barn as a shop for projects. It was a good situation for her. When I found out he was moving out I walked over and talked to him and walked in the barn for the first time and measured the door. I called her again and she was ready to sell. That was the end of August and we finally closed in December.
My ministry actually bought it to use as our headquarters which means storing tents, chairs, trailer and other equipment used in tent revivals as well as various items to be sent to home and foreign missions. Once the property is paid for my plan is to build a small fully handicap accessible house for my grown daughter that travels in the ministry with us. She has traveled and sang with us over 325 services a year for many, many years and I would love for her to have a place to stay at home when she wants or needs to do so.
Davy
Quote from: belfert on February 08, 2015, 01:42:31 PM
Congrats on such a find! I had to give up on finding a building for my bus and just bought a house in a city that will allow me to build a large garage for my bus. The bus garage I really want to build will cost about $55,000. No pole barns allowed because I don't have five acres. I was unwilling to drive another twenty miles a day to a city that allow pole barns.
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Brian have you checked with any Amish builders?
If you have an the prices are still that high get me more info (size, doors, insulation, etc) and I'll check with some of my local Amish builders!
I have a good connection with several of them and if they can make $ doing it, and make it a "fun working trip" they sometimes travel long distance to do a week to 2 week long job!
As a matter of fact we have group leaving out @ midnight coming up to Wadena, MN!
(for a funeral this trip, but it shows they have family up there!) ;D BK ;D
Quote from: B_K on February 11, 2015, 06:05:54 PM
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Brian have you checked with any Amish builders?
If you have an the prices are still that high get me more info (size, doors, insulation, etc) and I'll check with some of my local Amish builders!
No, I have not. I just called or visited three different garage builders and they all bid around $55,000 for the job. The contractor who renovated my house gave me a rough bid of close to $80,000! He said there is no way he could do it for $55,000, but the other guys do huge volume and he doesn't.
I'm at least four years out on the garage right now without a financial windfall so I have no plans to contact any builders for a few years at least. I've thought about doing it myself except the concrete, but the labor outside of the concrete is only 20% to 25% of the total cost. I may end up cutting the size by up to half to save money, but a 50% size cut probably wouldn't save 50%.
How big are you planning to build? My barn is 64' outside dimensions for a 45' bus. If it was much smaller it would be difficult to have room for storage or projects of any kind.
Davy
The prices I got are for 40x50 with 16 foot sidewalls. I've thought about going longer and narrower. The city allows 2000 square feet total. This also needs to be my normal garage for my car. I have thought about not demolishing my existing 2.5 car garage. That garage needs new siding and other repairs.
Building only half the garage allows me to get my bus under cover two to three years earlier than otherwise. Extra space often just ends up collecting junk that isn't worth the cost of the space to store it.
Would my project thread be of any help to anyone?
http://www.busconversions.com/bbs/index.php?topic=24831.0 (http://www.busconversions.com/bbs/index.php?topic=24831.0)
http://www.busconversions.com/bbs/index.php?topic=19177.0 (http://www.busconversions.com/bbs/index.php?topic=19177.0)
David
The city does not allow pole construction, nor do they allow metal siding unless the house is sided with metal. I don't think the city code allows pole barn type metal on houses anyhow. The siding on the garage has to match the style of siding on the house. Roof also has to match house.
I was told no to residential style pole barns, but I haven't pushed the issue yet. City told me the height of garage could not be taller than the house, but I couldn't find that in any city code or regulation. The city finally admitted that there is no such rule and the height limit is 45 feet. It is unclear if the pole barn restriction applies only to accessory structures, or to garages too. City code is not clear.