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Title: Torsilastic suspension
Post by: chessie4905 on November 17, 2014, 09:32:23 AM
   So, what is the avg. cost to rebuild/ replace rubber innards on these nowadays and who can do them. I remember a guy in the 80's had the front ones done on a Flxible vista liner and said they were a sob to do.
Title: Re: Torsilastic suspension
Post by: sparkplug188 on November 17, 2014, 09:51:24 AM
I have seen some very high prices posted in previous threads.  I wonder how much of the cost is labor to just remove and reinstall the Torsilastics.  There is no doubt I would have torch cut and air hammer nearly every bolt holding the Torsilastics on my bus if they needed to be rebuilt.  Does anybody know much it cost to rebuild only the Torsilastics?  Then, how much is the removal installation labor added to the rebuild cost?
Title: Re: Torsilastic suspension
Post by: TomC on November 17, 2014, 10:27:16 AM
I know of one that installed air bags on top of the torsilastic that cost less then a rebuild. Then you have some leveling capability. Good Luck, TomC
Title: Re: Torsilastic suspension
Post by: luvrbus on November 17, 2014, 01:37:28 PM
They weren't to bad in price till lately since they are no longer manufactured now if you can find them you are looking at 20 grand to replace the front,bogie and rear torsilasticss with labor, I have a 05 with a complete new set and that was Jeffersons bill 

In the 80's the bill was 5 grand out the door they are not really that hard to change I can do both rears in a day by myself
Title: Re: Torsilastic suspension
Post by: wg4t50 on November 17, 2014, 02:29:51 PM
about 15 yrs ago, cost $2,500 each for the six on the 01 model for the exchange, then labor, then the correct adjusting using 6 truck wheel scales. not quick nor low cost to put in spec.
Dave M
Just recalled the cost per unit.
Title: Re: Torsilastic suspension
Post by: Boomer on November 17, 2014, 10:08:14 PM
I have two excellent fronts if anyone needs them.
Title: Re: Torsilastic suspension
Post by: bevans6 on November 18, 2014, 06:47:30 AM
$160 a corner for two air bags is sounding pretty darn good about now!  I had a question about these, plain curiosity on my part.  Do these torsilastic units just act as springs or do they also locate the axle?  Why I ask is, if they go "bad" do the just lose their height and can't be adjusted up enough, or do they also let the axle flop around in and out of alignment?  That would be important if you were to add supplemental air bags to get the height back.

Brian
Title: Re: Torsilastic suspension
Post by: luvrbus on November 18, 2014, 07:12:39 AM
It is costly to replace the torslastic needs to be kept adjusted then it is never a problem I know of some 50 year old Eagles still running the original torsilastics.

When you let one side or the bogies,  the tags get to far out of adjustment it stresses the other components and down the tube it goes then big bucks in other words 99% of the time people cause the failure.

It took years for other bus manufactures to catch up with the independent front suspension Eagle had used since the 50's Prevost gave it the 1st shot in 1997 what a nightmare that was I don't know what year MCI tried it
Title: Re: Torsilastic suspension
Post by: chessie4905 on November 18, 2014, 04:22:10 PM
   You know, I think I'LL take the starter and water pump being a bitch to repair/replace over rust issues and torsilastic rebuilding.... ;D
Title: Re: Torsilastic suspension
Post by: luvrbus on November 18, 2014, 05:22:56 PM
They all rust even the GM
Title: Re: Torsilastic suspension
Post by: chessie4905 on November 18, 2014, 05:29:47 PM
   Ha. Ha I knew you wouldn't let that  slide.
Title: Re: Torsilastic suspension
Post by: oltrunt on November 18, 2014, 06:53:11 PM
My first thought is always "feed the purists rat poison".  Bag it and install keepers to stop movement in the original setup.  It will go for ever that way.  Do I have an opinion?--don't even have to ask ;D  Jack