Sean (seangie) and I are planning on drag racing each other...Eagle vs MCI. I'm guessing with my coach power issue fixed, and cooling system finally working properly, I'll win. My current weight with a full 100 gallon fresh tank and full tank (topped off) of fuel (180 gallons):
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Scott, I've forgotten, do you have the MC-9 or...?
TIKVAH
(Dave Rush)
MCI 102A3 6V92
Full Time On The Road - I couldn't fix my brakes, so I made my horn louder
MCI-9 1984
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How much on each corner if you have 4 and how much each on each end if you have 6? Ideally you should be within about 1-2 ounces from being exactly even or proportional ... give or take who is on board and where and how all the beer was secured. One can never carry enough beer.
A silly example would be if you have a two axle Bus Conversion and the typical 12K front end and the typical nominal 20K rear end, then you might have about 35%+- on the front and about 65%+- on the rear ... there abouts kinda maybe. Ideally each side would also be very close.
HB of CJ (old coot) Are we having fun? :)
My money is on "both are slow." ;D
For the 0-20mph portion of the drag race, please have one of your wives bicycle alongside the buses -- my bet is on her!!
Cheers, John
Lol. This is true. I never said the race would be epic...as for weight balance, well....my wife has taken up jogging and managed to misplace 31 pounds somewhere along the way. She's of no use for weight balancing. That's for sure
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With that kind of weight, you could eliminate the tag axle.
Just for the curiosity of comparison, I have the 102A3. Also with 100gal full water and full fuel tank. Not sure how our conversions compare, but probably not terribly different. They weighed to drive and tag axle as one.
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TIKVAH
(Dave Rush)
MCI 102A3 6V92
Full Time On The Road - I couldn't fix my brakes, so I made my horn louder
Dave, are you 45 feet? Your coach of course is 6 inches wider. Also, our conversion is light mainly because we removed all the windows, all the metal interior panels with carpet glued to them, no otr heat or a/c all condensers and radiators thereof removed. We stripped the coach down to bare frame and rebuilt from there on up. My side panels are aluminum...
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I've considered eliminating the tag btw, but the bus drives better with them. Besides, it's nice to carry around two spare tires just in case :)
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Im only 40'. I eliminated the bus air/heat and removed windows and put aluminum on the exterior. I added a lot of wood inside.
Mine is only 1200 more....that doesn't seem like a lot.
I have a gas generator, a good batch of tools.....oh, and a piano. :)
TIKVAH
(Dave Rush)
MCI 102A3 6V92
Full Time On The Road - I couldn't fix my brakes, so I made my horn louder
It's that piano. I have two toolboxes a generator, 30 gallon kenmore hot water heater, 26 cubic foot Samsung house fridge (it's a bigun) all knotty pine wood sides, a front loader washer and dryer stacked on top of each other, a king bed, queen hide a bed couch. So I honestly don't know why we are so light but I'll take it
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1990 mci 102c3
front 12144 lb drive , tag 22726 lb total 34870 lb full fuel 191 gal with 25 gal of fresh water this was in 2012
no mci a/c all bus windows removed skinned with 18gage gal. steel fully converted
dave
Dave,
How in the world did you get a piano in your bus?
From empty shell to finished bus with everything in, tanks full, I only added 3,000lbs. I weigh 31,000lbs-10,500lbs on the front, 20,500lbs on the rear. Considering the 13,000lb front and 23,000lb rear rating, that means I'm 5,000lbs below rating! Try finding a sticks and staples MH with that much leeway!
On my truck, my starting weight was 28,000lbs (18,000lbs for the chassis and 10,000lbs for the box). If I add another 1,000lbs from my bus conversion, then I'll be at 32,000lbs. Add in carrying a car at 2,800lbs, that adds up to close to 35,000lbs. The chassis is rated at 12,000lbs front, 38,000lbs rear (on 44,000lbs 8 air bag suspension) for 50,000lbs. If I pull a 10,000lb boat behind, I'll be at 45,000lbs. Funny thing, when I was with Bekins Van Lines doing furniture hauling, my empty weight was 48,000lbs. My truck won't even be working at those weights! Good luck, TomC
Quote from: Scott Bennett on October 28, 2014, 06:26:59 PM
Lol. This is true. I never said the race would be epic...as for weight balance, well....my wife has taken up jogging and managed to misplace 31 pounds somewhere along the way. She's of no use for weight balancing. That's for sure
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So, did she shift weight balance to the front or the back axle of the bike? Be careful how you answer this one.
Chewing on this one for a while ;-)
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Scott,
Your weight is right in line with what it should be. My 96a3 weighs in around 31,800 loaded.
I'd like to join you guys on your drag race. I'd be interested in how much slower off the line to 30mph my bus is compared to your powershift. I think once over 35 I might be able to catch up to you by around 65mph. After that I bet I have a lot more legs with my .73 overdrive. :-)
Brian, is your 96 Fiberglass panel or stainless steel? I bet that makes a difference d
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My old 8v71 manual will beat my 6v92 auto, with turbo. But my new series 60 will trounce them both. up until it hits the gov. The 8v71 mui will still pass them both on top end. Oh yea, I cranked the gov up on the 71. I do not think I will change the tune on the 60.
Yea, lets drag them,, My friend , Howard spent $$$$ thinking his bus was not fast enough. Hopefully he is happy now.
Ed has time on his quarter mile runs at the drag nationals.
My slowest bus is still fast enough for me. I am now more concerned as to who can stop the fastest.
Quote from: Scott Bennett on November 01, 2014, 07:01:41 PM
Brian, is your 96 Fiberglass panel or stainless steel? I bet that makes a difference d
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Scott, it is aluminum sides above and stainless steel below the waistline. It looks very traditional with the fluted siding. The only fiberglass on the bus are the front and rear caps.
Scott we have the same year bus and I also have aluminum siding. I came in around 36,000 I think when we weighed with you. Glad you sorted out some of your problems. Craig.
Wow Brian, you managed to keep your coach a featherweight. You might win :( Craig, thanks for the encouragement. I'm glad too. She seems to be running good now, but the next couple thousand miles will really tell the story
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I still want to hear Scott answer the question about weight distribution.... ;D
Scott -
We are close in weight. I think we were a little over 32 but don't remember maybe Craig does(pretty sure our wives were not on the bus when we weighed them). I took pics but have to dig them out somewhere. We both have 1984 buses with 6v92 Mechanicals with turboed engines and both have a 740 Allison auto. So I think it's going to come down to the driver and mechanic :)
-Sean
Wandering the country in a 1984 Eagle 10S.
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Quote from: Seangie on November 05, 2014, 06:19:14 AM
Scott -
We are close in weight. (pretty sure our wives were not on the bus when we weighed them).
-Sean
Wandering the country in a 1984 Eagle 10S.
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Oh man I hope your gals don't read the forum.
Sean you were in the 34,000 lb range if I remember correctly but I don't know what your gear ratio is. I do remember the strange sensation of bouncing up and down in your eagle. Our MCI has always bounced side to side.
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