Hundreds of thousands of people are demonstrating and none of them are talking about bus conversions. >:(
Every old bus we convert represents hundreds, if not thousands of tons of CO2, not to mention the energy spent or mines dug.
RJ has posted about a bargain bus on these boards which, even as a parts donor, is a huge potential eco-win if it doesn't all go to the scrapyard. Yes, going to the scrapyard for recycling is a step towards so-called sustainability, but nowhere near what straight reuse is.
So, why aren't we telling the world what eco-heroes busnuts are ?
edward
Quote from: shelled on September 22, 2014, 03:17:50 PM
Hundreds of thousands of people are demonstrating and none of them are talking about bus conversions. >:(
Every old bus we convert represents hundreds, if not thousands of tons of CO2, not to mention the energy spent or mines dug.
RJ has posted about a bargain bus on these boards which, even as a parts donor, is a huge potential eco-win if it doesn't all go to the scrapyard. Yes, going to the scrapyard for recycling is a step towards so-called sustainability, but nowhere near what straight reuse is.
So, why aren't we telling the world what eco-heroes busnuts are ?
edward
sshhhhhh!! you'll wake up a Californian..... ???
That might be hard to do considering how they vote in that state, think they must all be stoned,,,,,,except the few that have buses and frequent boards like this 😄
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Unfortunately 95% of eco-nuts would take one look at the smokey exhaust of your bus and condemn it as a dinosaur that shouldn't be on the road, and you as the devil for driving it. Whereas they are saints because they've just traded-in a two-year-old Prius and bought a brand new one.
Jeremy
I almost feel guilty. My coach doesn't belch smoke, but it consumes vast amounts of fossil fuel. Combine that with the fact I drag an H2 Hummer behind me as our toad and I imagine most Prius drivers would want me arrested.
If the tree huggers want to use solar power and ride bicycles and drive electric cars I am ok with that as long as they leave me alone.
Quote from: Jon on September 23, 2014, 04:12:16 AM
I almost feel guilty. My coach doesn't belch smoke, but it consumes vast amounts of fossil fuel. Combine that with the fact I drag an H2 Hummer behind me as our toad and I imagine most Prius drivers would want me arrested.
If the tree huggers want to use solar power
Using large amounts of power to manufacture components that often don't last; components made with metals and other items that pollute in their manufacture ...
Quoteand ride bicycles and
And slow down traffic causing all the other traffic to use more fuel and waste time ...
Quotedrive electric cars I am ok with that as long as they leave me alone.
BIG ditto on the power used to make them and pollution from metals and other items.
In reality, I AM pretty much of a treehugger, but I don't have any misconceptions that *everyone* here isn't consuming resources and making pollution. And I'm with you, Jon, I don't want to hear any self-righteous bull-frogs about it!
I don't want to sound beligerent but after 53 years of marriage and hard work my wife and I are literally treating ourselves to the relaxation and luxury we denied ourselves while we built businesses. If someone wants a different lifestyle that is fine, but we want to enjoy ours.
My bus gets between 6 and 8 miles per gallon of diesel fuel. It weighs about 34k pounds equivalent of 11 Prius cars. At 51 MPG, together the 11 cars would average 4.6 MPG Way more fuel efficient for me to drive the bus.
Plus I can lay a getaway smoke screen when those Prius owners come running after me.
-Sean
Wandering the country in a 1984 Eagle 10S.
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Another Prius attack repelled ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_5h4CKRZO0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_5h4CKRZO0)
Good one Van, I enjoyed that!
JC
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Those of us who full time are also saving the costs and materials of a house. That has to be a huge factor.
Jim
Talking about pollution, this trend to add a spurt of some kind of oil (buying the mechanics to do it) to cause a gigantic puff of smoke and then to take time to figure out and bend and fabricate an exhaust system to aim it cars behind you, especially in a case of a distracted driver, that could lead to God knows what, sorry to rant, but I'd call these two guys jerks, I wonder if they do it to cops too, tom, lvmci...
I am with Jon, I am heading to retirement, and a bus will be our retirement residence. If we drive 10,000 miles a year we will consume less energy then we do heating our home currently.
Quote from: lvmci on September 24, 2014, 08:58:12 AM
Talking about pollution, this trend to add a spurt of some kind of oil (buying the mechanics to do it) to cause a gigantic puff of smoke and then to take time to figure out and bend and fabricate an exhaust system to aim it cars behind you, especially in a case of a distracted driver, that could lead to God knows what, sorry to rant, but I'd call these two guys jerks, I wonder if they do it to cops too, tom, lvmci...
Hadn't come across that before but, yep, truly moronic. Wouldn't get away with doing that for long in the UK for sure.
Jeremy
I jokingly described my bus on the Northern Arizona Wind & Sun forum as being an earthship with wheels. If I full-time in it I won't have a conventional house, and I'll be driving it only a few thousand miles a year (at most), plus I have 2 kW of solar panels on the roof to supply all my electricity. Obviously it's never going to be a carbon-neutral self-sufficient super-eco emission-free etc etc earthship, but I think my overall consumption of resources will be less than living "conventionally". I also plan on using some or all of my bicycles instead of having a toad, not only because I like cycling more than I like driving, but because it's cheaper and healthier for me.
Whether I'm "green" or not depends on one's definition of green-ness, but I think I'll be able to live an environmentally-responsible lifestyle, and hopefully save some money, and prevent a good Crown bus from being crushed, and have fun doing so!
John
Remember environmental people tend to be low info people or just plain liars.
ouch.
Probably could have used a better term than environment, since I am highly concerned about the environment, but I think most people know the groups I am referring to.
Quote from: Van on September 23, 2014, 06:46:33 PM
Another Prius attack repelled ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_5h4CKRZO0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_5h4CKRZO0)
That was funny.
"environmental "
"most people"
Sounds like a bus nut. LOL
Quote from: digesterman on September 24, 2014, 05:49:48 PM
Remember environmental people tend to be low info people or just plain liars.
Looks like I've been insulted, but I'll just lie and say that it doesn't bother me.
Jim
Hey Jim that's exactly what gore does, you're in good company 😊
All the coaches owned by bus nuts (combined) burning diesel out of tune don't come close to the toxic empire.....http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/inside-the-koch-brothers-toxic-empire-20140924 (http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/inside-the-koch-brothers-toxic-empire-20140924)