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Title: Ac stoped blowing cold air?
Post by: harleyman_1000 on September 08, 2014, 07:06:44 PM
 Ok I had my ac going all day 2 days ago and it was blowing very cold air, and today I turned it on to cool the bus so I could fix some plumbing leaks and start the bathroom remodel, and it won't blow cool air? It blows air just the compressor just doesn't kick on. Any ideas what might cause this?  Would it most likely be the switch that turns the fan and also the ac on or the switch that controls the coolness where the thermostat is connected to? I have a identical unit in the front that works fine, so I can take switches from one to the other to find out whats not working if I need to, but thought there might be another way?
Title: Re: Ac stoped blowing cold air?
Post by: mung on September 08, 2014, 07:09:17 PM
Capacitor?  Usually the first thing to check.
Title: Re: Ac stoped blowing cold air?
Post by: LuckyChow on September 08, 2014, 08:12:02 PM
Had the same problem this past weekend, except mine was the fan motor --- not the compressor.  Now I know why very few people repair them.  Parts are sky high.  A fan motor for my 10 year old Coleman was $200 from Coleman.  I was able to find a third party knock-off motor for $150, which I installed.  Back to working again.  Previous poster is right.  Check capacitor first.
Title: Re: Ac stoped blowing cold air?
Post by: Nick Badame Refrig/ACC on September 09, 2014, 03:19:45 AM
This has always worked for me..

When in Doubt, Jump it out!

Good Luck
Nick-
Title: Re: Ac stoped blowing cold air?
Post by: Scott & Heather on September 09, 2014, 03:52:12 AM
I just did this two weeks ago on our roof a/c. If it's a coleman:

1. Kill the breaker or remove power to roof a/c unit.

2. Go onto roof and remove outer plastic shroud (usually 4 large Philips screws)

3. Once shroud is removed, if you are facing the sloping front end of the a/c, look on the right side of it and you'll see a little sheet metal door that is held onto the ducting by two sheet metal screws. Remove these and slide the door down and out.

4. Inside the little compartment behind that sheet metal door you'll see two or three capacitors (like tin cans). If any of them look swollen or like the top is bursting out, that's likely your bad capacitor. If no visible issues, take your voltmeter and discharge the caps (someone chime in on this). I never did this step and I regret it. You'll need a meter that is rated at higher than 500 volts.

5. Once you've discharged caps, remove the jumper wires from them and take them out one by one. Then put your meter on ohms and put the probes on the metal fins. See if your needle maxes out, then slowly returns to it's initial value. If so, your cap is probably good. If it maxes out and stays there or doesn't do anything or keeps slamming back and forth, you have a bad cap. Buy a new one at RV parts store or online. $20 give or take.


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Title: Re: Ac stoped blowing cold air?
Post by: harleyman_1000 on September 09, 2014, 05:38:25 AM
How do I discharge a capacitor?  I read you use a 110 light. Can I simply take a light fixture and touch the black and white wires to each side of the capacitor?
Title: Re: Ac stoped blowing cold air?
Post by: mung on September 09, 2014, 08:39:24 AM
Short a screw driver across the terminals, just make sure it has a rubber handle and you aren't touching metal.

Vern
Title: Re: Ac stoped blowing cold air?
Post by: ros on September 16, 2014, 08:25:38 PM
To discharge a cap. MAKE DOGGONE SURE THAT THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO POWER TO IT, then take a screwdriver and put across each terminal to the case of the capacitor and then put the diver across all terminal to each other. 

Ros, E.E.
Title: Re: Ac stoped blowing cold air?
Post by: mung on September 17, 2014, 05:07:35 AM
Also don't forget the one hand rule.  When working with any high current wiring, always use one hand as much as possible.
Title: Re: Ac stoped blowing cold air?
Post by: Oonrahnjay on September 17, 2014, 06:36:43 AM
Quote from: mung on September 17, 2014, 05:07:35 AMAlso don't forget the one hand rule.  When working with any high current wiring, always use one hand as much as possible. 

     And don't stand on an aluminum ladder and hang off an aluminum tent pole with one hand while you're touching a metal switch case that has lost it's ground but has picked up a strand of wire from the hot connection.  Don't ask me how I know ...
Title: Re: Ac stoped blowing cold air?
Post by: Ed Hackenbruch on September 17, 2014, 06:46:24 AM
And the best way is to have somebody that knows what they are doing do it......no chance of you getting shocked!
Title: Re: Ac stoped blowing cold air?
Post by: mung on September 17, 2014, 07:27:51 AM
The very first thing we were taught in my high school electricity class many moons ago, was the one hand rule.  It was explained that if you were to get shocked and one hand is on a grounded item and the other hand takes the jolt, that it will travel right through your heart, so that is the worst conductive path to have, much better to have it go somewhere else in your body.

OK, well it wasn't the first thing, the first thing was don't cross the duck line.  See the teacher was a little eccentric, he had a yellow tape line around his desk and the back area, if you crossed the line without asking him permission first, he would start quacking like a duck and say his attack duck was going to get you for crossing the duck line. 

Kids in the intro class thought he was crazy and didn't get it.  Once you made it into the full year advanced electronics course you realized why he had the line and the rule.  He used to work on some heavy stuff back there including the old color TVs that they used in the class room.  Many times he had things powered on back there that kids should not have been messing with.  So the rule was there to make sure that you didn't go back and mess with anything you shouldn't be messing with and he knew not only when it was safe to let people back there, but also who was responsible enough to be back there when the dangerous stuff was going on.  He is also the teacher that caused everyone to learn how to write backwards, because every paper you turned in had to have your last name at the top in block letters with the last letter touching the right edge of the paper.  It was a lot easier to start at the right edge and work backwards.
Title: Re: Ac stoped blowing cold air?
Post by: eagle19952 on September 17, 2014, 07:40:58 AM
the one hand rule...
now you know why hiring an electrician costs so much...in order to have a two handed one....you need two. ;D
Title: Re: Ac stoped blowing cold air?
Post by: mung on September 17, 2014, 07:53:48 AM
Not only do you need two, but they have to be smart enough not to touch each other.  Can't figure out why that electrician keeps losing assistants  ???
Title: Re: Ac stoped blowing cold air?
Post by: eagle19952 on September 17, 2014, 07:57:55 AM
i helped my kids learn about electric fences (had hogs)....nefer got shocked, they did once.
come here..hold my hand  ;D