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Title: Air Bags
Post by: gm4106 on May 27, 2014, 03:40:02 PM
I have a 1992 Beaver Baronet that has the original air bags.  I am trying to replace them.  When I search the Firestone #'s on the Air Bags I can't match the piston #.  I have called Gilig and they will only give me the Gilig part #.  I am trying to find the Firestone replacement #.  Does anyone know where I can cross reference the two #'s. 

The Gilig #'s are 53-15085-028 (original part #) and 82-19869-000 (updated part #) the Firestone # is 1T15S-6  NBD-10421  9848 (these are the #'s on the Original Air Bag.

I tried Google to find a cross reference guide with no luck.

Any information is welcomed.  We need to replace before we can get on the road again.

Thanks
Title: Re: Air Bags
Post by: bevans6 on May 27, 2014, 03:57:28 PM
Just call Luke at US Coach.  He probably has the bags and fittings in stock, and his price is probably better than anyone else.  I gave up trying to cross-reference the bags, the same spring is used in a lot of different applications depending on the hardware and fittings.  I just bought three rear air springs for my MCI from him last week.

Brian
Title: Re: Air Bags
Post by: uncle ned on May 27, 2014, 05:01:22 PM

Might want to give goodsons in maiden a call

ned
Title: Re: Air Bags
Post by: gm4106 on May 29, 2014, 05:18:18 AM
Thanks for all the help.
I talk with Firestone teck. and found out they don't make the bag any more. Also that Gillig holds the rights for that bag.  He told me that if I could find one better get it, because there is no replacement  So looks like a call to Gillig parts dept.
Title: Re: Air Bags
Post by: bevans6 on May 29, 2014, 11:57:48 AM
Here is a link to a pretty comprehensive Firestone document on their airbags.  http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CDAQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.firestoneip.com%2Fsite-resources%2Ffsip%2Fliterature%2Fpdf%2FAirideDG.pdf&ei=kImHU-zrBuWxsATE_IGYBQ&usg=AFQjCNEy4RRBk1yssUaiZeyf10HwqlGhaw&bvm=bv.67720277,d.cWc (http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CDAQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.firestoneip.com%2Fsite-resources%2Ffsip%2Fliterature%2Fpdf%2FAirideDG.pdf&ei=kImHU-zrBuWxsATE_IGYBQ&usg=AFQjCNEy4RRBk1yssUaiZeyf10HwqlGhaw&bvm=bv.67720277,d.cWc)

What you may find is that the bag itself is a stock item but the mounting system or plates are custom to Gillig.  You might be able to change just the bag, or you may find that the bag is permanently crimped onto the mounting plates.  Thought it might help.

Brian
Title: Re: Air Bags
Post by: RuidosoKid on May 29, 2014, 12:34:33 PM
Quote from: bevans6 on May 27, 2014, 03:57:28 PM
Just call Luke at US Coach.  He probably has the bags and fittings in stock, and his price is probably better than anyone else.  I gave up trying to cross-reference the bags, the same spring is used in a lot of different applications depending on the hardware and fittings.  I just bought three rear air springs for my MCI from him last week.

Brian

Thanks Brian,
They don't have a fancy website and that is probably why i did not find them right away but here is there info for anyone else looking.. I just called and they have what we need at a better price than any other..

http://usc17.tripod.com/ (http://usc17.tripod.com/)    = US Coach Repair in NJ.