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Title: Smoked clutch I think
Post by: 5B Steve on January 04, 2014, 02:36:35 PM

  I tried to move the bus today ,she moved forward about 2-3 feet stopped, reverse 2-3 feet, when I went in to

gear again , nothing.   Did the clutch let go?  Tires didn"t spin.

  Steve 5B......
Title: Re: Smoked clutch I think
Post by: eagle19952 on January 04, 2014, 03:47:01 PM
maybe out of adjustment, but I don't see that short bit of moving as a way to burn up a clutch,
maybe stuck in neutral ??
Title: Re: Smoked clutch I think
Post by: gus on January 04, 2014, 03:53:13 PM
The splines on the driveshaft slip joint may be gone, happened to me.
Title: Re: Smoked clutch I think
Post by: luvrbus on January 04, 2014, 03:54:04 PM
Probably the assist is hung up in a neutral position not letting the clutch engage
Title: Re: Smoked clutch I think
Post by: 5B Steve on January 04, 2014, 05:57:54 PM
Quote from: luvrbus on January 04, 2014, 03:54:04 PM
Probably the assist is hung up in a neutral position not letting the clutch engage


If that's the case, how do you fix it?

  Steve 5B.....
Title: Re: Smoked clutch I think
Post by: bevans6 on January 05, 2014, 03:55:11 AM
If the air assist cylinder was hung, the clutch pedal would be stuck on the floor.  Do you have a normal clutch pedal movement and pressure?  Can you get someone to press on the pedal while you look at the linkage on the gearbox to see if everything is moving right?  Are you sure you are getting it in gear properly?  Has the reverse solenoid hung up at all or is it operating correctly?  You can see the reverse solenoid and the top of the clutch linkage through the access panels in the floor at the back of the bus.

Brian
Title: Re: Smoked clutch I think
Post by: luvrbus on January 05, 2014, 04:19:32 AM
Just press the pedal without air if you don't have about 2 inches of free play on the pedal start checking beginning with the adjustment in the rear side door, the assist pivots and will hang in upwards position or the level position from time to time is what I find  

There is a bunch of linkage and circuital adjustments associated with the air assist fwiw that is where I would start JMO they never get greased  
Title: Re: Smoked clutch I think
Post by: PP on January 05, 2014, 08:08:48 PM
If the clutch failed, wouldn't it be almost impossible to get it into gear? Just another dumb question-it's past my bedtime.
Will  :)
Title: Re: Smoked clutch I think
Post by: bevans6 on January 06, 2014, 03:47:21 AM
Lots of ways for a clutch to fail but two of the most popular are for the friction lining to burn up and causes massive slipping.  If it can't engage at all, you could still put it in gear but you'd still feel the clutch spring there.  The other way (seen it on race cars but no idea on bus clutches) is for the center to rip out of the clutch disc so the engine is basically not connected to the input shaft any longer.  Without more information from Steve it's hard to guess what's happening in this case.

Brian
Title: Re: Smoked clutch I think
Post by: luvrbus on January 06, 2014, 04:03:19 AM
A broken axle will give him the same symptoms fwiw
Title: Re: Smoked clutch I think
Post by: 5B Steve on January 06, 2014, 08:34:49 AM

   Thanks for all the info everyones' posted. With the weather in the indianapolis area today --12 it will have to wait

   untill later.  I will post then, Thanks again!

    Steve 5B....
Title: Re: Smoked clutch I think
Post by: Utahclaimjumper on January 06, 2014, 10:18:33 AM
 A broken axle, stripped splines, broken clutch splines, all will generally make a lot of racket. More than likely the clutch is hung and is not engaging.>>>Dan