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Title: Delo 400 40#
Post by: saddleup on October 04, 2013, 07:35:45 AM
Guess there is such a thing as delo400 40 w? napa store called back said thats all they can get,told them as long as it straight 40 i try it.
I should know the the answer to this question but i quit reading about oil on here a couple years ago just to much drama lol
Title: Re: Delo 400 40#
Post by: HighTechRedneck on October 04, 2013, 08:12:48 AM
Here are the current Chevron data sheets for Delo 100 - 40wt and Delo 400.

Delo 400 - https://cglapps.chevron.com/msdspds/PDSDetailPage.aspx?docDataId=77118&docFormat=PDF (https://cglapps.chevron.com/msdspds/PDSDetailPage.aspx?docDataId=77118&docFormat=PDF)

Delo 100 - https://cglapps.chevron.com/msdspds/PDSDetailPage.aspx?docDataId=77106&docFormat=PDF (https://cglapps.chevron.com/msdspds/PDSDetailPage.aspx?docDataId=77106&docFormat=PDF)

From the Delo 400 datasheet:
QuoteDelo 400 monograde oils are not recommended for use
in DDC two-stroke engines.

From the Delo 100 - 40wt datasheet:
QuoteDelo 100 Motor Oil is recommended for use in
two-stroke diesel engines requiring highly effective
control of wear and deposits.

Delo 100 Motor Oil utilizes exceptional quality
technology to provide excellent performance in older
engines burning ultra low sulfur diesel fuels

Also from the datasheets:
Delo 100-40wt Sulfated Ash Content = 0.8%
Delo 400 40wt Sulfated Ash Content = 1.5%

Those datasheets are dated July 2013, so they are current.

The Detroit Diesel engine lubricant specs call for less than 1% sulphated ash content in 53,71, & 92 series 2-stroke engines.

2007 edition released under the MTU label (2-strokes are addressed on page 18):  http://www.mtu-online.com/fileadmin/fm-dam/mtu-global/technical-info/fluids_and_lubricants_specifications/A001061_35E.pdf (http://www.mtu-online.com/fileadmin/fm-dam/mtu-global/technical-info/fluids_and_lubricants_specifications/A001061_35E.pdf)
Title: Re: Delo 400 40#
Post by: RJ on October 04, 2013, 08:27:00 AM
NAPA's being lazy, and/or the pimple-faced kid behind the computer can't figure out how to do his job.  Delo 100 is available from ANY Chevron wholesale distributor, in gallon jugs, five gallon pails, or 55 gallon drums.

Do you have an O'Reilly's in town?  If so, walk in and ask them to order 100-40-1 CHV.  If the kid plugs it in and gives you a blank stare, tell him to put the CHV in the vendor code box on his screen, then 100-40-1 in the part number box.  This PN is for the one gallon jug.  Three gallons to a case.  They should be able to get it for you within a couple days at the most.  About $14/gallon or so.

On a side note:

ANYONE who's purchased Delo 100 from a NAPA store - Can you post their part number for this product?  I thought I had it in my notes, but can't seem to find it.

FWIW & HTH. . .

;)
Title: Re: Delo 400 40#
Post by: Don4107 on October 04, 2013, 08:50:50 AM
Napa number is 75118.  5 gallon jugs.  Napa web site is horrible.  Delo 100 returns no results.  They don't have Delo 100 in the description.

http://www.napaonline.com/Catalog/Result.aspx?Ntt%3d75118%26Ntk%3dKeyword%26Nty%3d1%26Dn%3d0%26D%3d75118%26Dk%3d1%26Dp%3d3%26N%3d0 (http://www.napaonline.com/Catalog/Result.aspx?Ntt%3d75118%26Ntk%3dKeyword%26Nty%3d1%26Dn%3d0%26D%3d75118%26Dk%3d1%26Dp%3d3%26N%3d0)

PS, don't know if it is even Delo,  jug says NAPA.
Title: Re: Delo 400 40#
Post by: luvrbus on October 04, 2013, 08:51:13 AM
Matt all you need to do is read the jug the Delo 400 40W is approved for both the DDC /MTU type 1 and 2 engines and are rated CF/SL the 400 15/40 Delo 400 changes the rating to CJ-4 not approved for a 2 stroke they drop 1 engine what the ash in  the 100 something like .87 so they say

I don't why Chevron post the stuff on their web and prints something different on the jug, but ash is not a problem, the series 60 requires a .50 ash max in a CJ-4 rated oil which is 15/40 and the 400 meets that requirement with .50 ash contents which is less than the 1 % for a 2 stroke  

I wouldn't tell you to use the wrong oil hell if something happen to the engine I would probably be the one rebuilding the engine :P Chevron sells you guys on using the Delo100 those engines ran fine for a long time before Delo 100 came along  

If you want Delo 100 Matt I have 4 gals here just buy 3 gals and you can have these 4 lol I also have some Delo 400 -40W as you know Delo 100 is not my favorite by a long shot
Title: Re: Delo 400 40#
Post by: saddleup on October 04, 2013, 09:20:41 AM
OK, Canceld the order for the delo 400 going to wait till i get somwhere to get the 100, probly wont get it change till i get to nevada or Cliffords anyway.
SORRY IF I STIRED ANOTHER OIL DEBATE UP....

Not to change the subject but here a pic of the daughter and son in laws place Gillette Wy. foot of so and still coming down,about a hour ago, this was almost a bus picture in stead of truck snow pic, but the Wifes job lasting a few days longer...
Title: Re: Delo 400 40#
Post by: Red Rider on October 04, 2013, 01:41:14 PM
Matt;

If you're coming through Cedar City on your way South, we have a Chevron jobber here that keeps many cases (3 Gal) of Delo 100 in stock. Costs a little over $13.00 per Gal. Several of the GM guys come through here every summer either coming or going to ID or Yellowstone. Most all of them stock up for the next year.
Title: Re: Delo 400 40#
Post by: baker4106 on October 04, 2013, 04:01:01 PM
NAPA can get Rotella T 40#.   Part number is 550019858 for gallon jugs.   Just purchased 9 gallon.
Title: Re: Delo 400 40#
Post by: Barn Owl on October 04, 2013, 08:57:37 PM
The way these oil treads end up one would think that Delo 100 is the only oil one can use in a two stroke. How many more times do we have to endure the mystical, magical, Delo 100 sightings/hunts. Someone needs to post and lock a sticky thread at the top listing the Manufactures and their oils that will work in the two stroke. It would put the most repeated question in a predominate reference spot. I am not fussing, it is a legitimate question if you don't know. Just trying to make the world a better place one less Delo question at a time.
Title: Re: Delo 400 40#
Post by: luvrbus on October 05, 2013, 06:33:59 AM
I agree Barn Owl Chevron did a good sells job I don't like the stuff you tear a engine down that has nothing but 100 used in it they are nasty and with 5000 miles on the 100 the 2 strokes drink it like cool aid I will stick the Mobil Delvac 1240
Title: Re: Delo 400 40#
Post by: saddleup on October 05, 2013, 06:49:36 AM
OK,i friggen give up just where do i find Mobil delvac 1240,Clifford the only reason i been sticking to the delo 100 is thats what you said was in the bus when i biught it along with a gallon and a half of delo100 in a conpartment
Title: Re: Delo 400 40#
Post by: luvrbus on October 05, 2013, 07:12:59 AM
That is all I could get at O-Reilly's at the time sometimes you gotta use what you can buy that engine has had very little Delo 100 or Rotella,remember I told you it would start using oil when the 100 started getting dirty lol  

When I used the Delo 100 I changed it at 5000 miles with the  Delvac I could run for 10,000 to 12,000 miles based on the samples from Cat I'll give you the reports when you stop by

Delvac 1240 is hard to find in some areas I bought mine when we on trips to Texas easy to find there the DD dealers sell it but a price  

Your friend Tim is supposed to be here around noon today I am looking forward to seeing what he bought
Title: Re: Delo 400 40#
Post by: Lin on October 05, 2013, 08:32:52 AM
I have tried to find alternatives to the Delo 100 locally and have had no luck.  I do not think the Delvac is available in CA.  I think I did find Conoco about an hour and a half away or Shell a little closer.  The last time I was buying oil, the search got so frustrating that I was happy to just be able to get the Delo at all.  I will go through the hunt again the next time I need oil but do not expect any better results.  I think that aside from doing a good marketing campaign, Chevron has made it relatively easily available, and that helps them too.
Title: Re: Delo 400 40#
Post by: luvrbus on October 05, 2013, 09:00:14 AM
Lin, I bought Delvac 1240 from Western Wholesale in Bloomington CA for years before CA started adding so many fees then it wasn't worth the trouble 
Title: Re: Delo 400 40#
Post by: lvmci on October 05, 2013, 02:40:46 PM
Hi All, Matt & all those visiting, you can get Delo 100, 40 in LV again at O'Reilys on spring mt road, Cliff do you know if the napa or detroit diesel is rebranded Mobil/Delvac?, wwwilliams on Loosee rd near Cheyene/I15, has the detroit diesel. Awhile back I couldnt find recomended oils, available in LV and I was getting Union Oil 76 T5X (this is conoco/66), until they changed the formula and the ash level raised over the recomended amount, I sure would like to try the Delvac, does anyone in So Cal know where to get Delvac, is Bloomington in southern cal? Lvmci...
Title: Re: Delo 400 40#
Post by: Lin on October 05, 2013, 03:33:31 PM
Yes, Bloomington is near Fontana.  I think that I once contacted an oil distributor there that had Mobil oil in 5 gallon cans.  The problem I had with them is that they had me apply for a wholesale account, which would have been okay. However they then denied my application for some incorrect reason, and the salesman was not interested in fixing it when he heard how much I would be buying.  If you have better luck with them, let me know.
Title: Re: Delo 400 40#
Post by: lvmci on October 05, 2013, 03:37:28 PM
Thanks Lin, every now and then I go to Walts RV in Rialto, that must not be far away, tom, lvmci...
Title: Re: Delo 400 40#
Post by: saddleup on October 06, 2013, 06:10:08 AM
Delo 100,delvac 1240 and whatever other brands are the best , hell im just going to go strait to the source, you guys seen the light sweet crude that coming up in these Bakken wells, looks and smells so good you could drink it, im just going to pull me 6 gallons,off a well and run it...
Title: Re: Delo 400 40#
Post by: luvrbus on October 06, 2013, 06:56:51 AM
Tim stopped by Sat Matt to show me his new find he had stock of Rotella for his his 8v71T that is quite the find for a 07 Eagle original windshields,Mike Wilson paint job and the Bill Kingsley curved cabinet work he was all smiles even with giving up his 60 series in the other Eagle t

Nothing to do with oil but I was glad to see that bus I always wondered what happen to it remarkable out of the 45 07's built  in 69 and 70 there is still 44 you can account for and you are pretty damn good at keeping a secret lol
Title: Re: Delo 400 40#
Post by: saddleup on October 06, 2013, 07:27:19 AM
YA,I Got a look at the pictures a month or so great lookin bus, least i wont have that series 60 runnin on my a$$ anymore when we run together...lol
That is pretty amazing how many 07s still out there, wonder if there any still seated ones?
Title: Re: Delo 400 40#
Post by: luvrbus on October 06, 2013, 07:35:43 AM
Nope you got him now  ::) he will looking for some 3:33 gears to try and run with you