1. is diesel exhuast just as deadly as a gas engine? Should I be concerned with diesel exhuast entering the bus?
2. For people that have diesel generators in bus compartments, is i necessary to have a colling fan pointed at the generator head? How much CFM is needed in case it needs cooling?
CO will kill you!!..NO MATTER WHAT SOURCE....that is exhausted when our dino fuel burns...
So any "engine" the exhaust will kill you...it happens almost every day
No "air leaks" into passenger compartment (bus,car etc) period...too many people die
A fan onto gen head is good,exhaust the heat out is also required
Diesel engines produce very little carbon monoxide it may make one sick but the exhaust will not kill you, the soot participles will do you in over time so says OSHA I would seal the bus anyway
Kinda hard to beloeive one would not have a snug exhaust system on both engine and genset.
A proper engineered and installed generator would not need outside fans.
I like the idea of a vertical exhaust above the roof line when your parked to get the exhaust up and away from others who would ot enuoy your fumes.
Was at the CHarlotte Auto Show inside the Charlotte NASCAR track, had not installed the vertical pipe, was informed by a woman it was not appreciated, so did put it pipe up, she got happier.
LOL yea people complain about a generator then they turn around and fire up a stinky a** racket making Webasto,Pro/Heat,Aqua/Hot or other diesel fired heaters with no stack blowing in your doors and windows and tell you "well I had to have some hot water to shower today"
I agree with Dave on the generator I never used a fan design it right that eliminates a problem down the road
Quote from: luvrbus on August 28, 2013, 05:31:24 PM
Diesel engines produce very little carbon monoxide it may make one sick but the exhaust will not kill you, the soot participles will do you in over time so says OSHA I would seal the bus anyway
Clifford, when I lived in western NY a local small truck company owner committed suicide by sitting in his running truck inside the closed garage. Diesel exhaust can kill you.
If one wants to die I guess you could kill yourself with diesel exhaust it would take a while with work to do but still is best to seal the bus
Even if diesel smoke exposure was good for you, a coach needs to be sealed completely against its entry.
It only takes a little while before diesel exhaust entering the coach starts accumulating black stains everywhere. And those subtle accumulations of darkening on all surfaces cannot be cleaned on most soft surfaces such as carpet, upholstery, drapes, shades, etc.
The smell never leaves I looked at a H-45 the Aqua/Hot had filled the cabin with diesel smoke that one is still for sale not worth the chance seal it but to answer his question the diesel engine is not near as dangerous as a gasoline engine for CO
I have a up exhaust for the big engine (was stock). On the generator, the compartment is small. I have an 8" inline bathroom ventilator (around 250cfm) to ventilate the compartment (my radiator is remote with squirrel cage blower). It works well, have never had problems with anything overheating. The big alternator head runs very cool-even with maximum output, the cooling air is just warm (not hot). Good luck, TomC
Carbon Monoxide is a colorless,odorless gas which occurs when internal combustion occurs.
It usually accompanies the smell of exhaust.
The effects are cumulative and will definitly kill you if allowed to build up. This means: little today, little tomorrow.....
I had a brother suffer a near death from it in a truck several years ago.
It was very prevelant in the older aircraft that scavenged heat by enclosing manifolds around exhaust. The exhaust developed leaks and the aircraft heat then included the carbon monoxide.
I can not stress enough the dangers of ignoring exhaust fumes.
Quote from: TomC on August 29, 2013, 09:25:55 AM
I have a up exhaust for the big engine (was stock). On the generator, the compartment is small. I have an 8" inline bathroom ventilator (around 250cfm) to ventilate the compartment (my radiator is remote with squirrel cage blower). It works well, have never had problems with anything overheating. The big alternator head runs very cool-even with maximum output, the cooling air is just warm (not hot). Good luck, TomC
Any pictures to share?
Quote from: luvrbus on August 28, 2013, 06:37:51 PM
LOL yea people complain about a generator then they turn around and fire up a stinky a** racket making Webasto,Pro/Heat,Aqua/Hot or other diesel fired heaters with no stack blowing in your doors and windows and tell you "well I had to have some hot water to shower today"
I agree with Dave on the generator I never used a fan design it right that eliminates a problem down the road
Any pictures?
There is no way to be absolutely sure that you have the coach sealed up to prevent CO from your engines or someone else's. Install a CO detector next to your smoke detector. They are cheap and easy to install. My rig has a smoke, CO, & propane detectors. About 3 yrs ago, at a W. Kentucky race track, they found people dead in their camper because their portable generator was located to close and CO got them in their sleep.
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Watch this video.
Genturi Generator Exhaust System (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBPDpMHVWVg#ws)
I remember seeing some pictures on the KY camper. The jobsite type generator was on the tailgate of a pickup parked beside the trailer and the exhaust was pointed toward an open storage door. Even though the genny appeared to be at least 6ft away the open door allowed enough exhaust to get in to cause death.
I read somewhere (probably here) about a method of finding water leaks that should help you find any kind of small leaks. Someone suggested that you put a small squirrel cage fan in a window or vent and seal it as much as possible with duct tape. This should pressurize the bus or camper. Then outside the bus spray a mixture of dishwashing liquid and water on any seam. If it is leaking it will bubble. Of course if it is too large to bubble that should be an easy find anyway.