Ok I finally bought my first bus. It is a GM 4104. I am currently broke down and in desperate need of some information. I need to know where the fuse boxes are? I found 1 small fuse box inside the panel to the left of the driver seat, but it only has 5 or 6 fuses in it, so Im sure there is another fuse box somewhere? I called the guy I bought it from and he didn't know where it was? I don't have any tail lights, brake lights, or rear marker lights, but the turn signals do work, so Im guessing it is a fuse? If you can help please call me since my internet doesn't work well here. Scott 573-705-011 four
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according to this post there are no fuses, just circuit breakers, there is a box in the back (by engine?) that can corrode and have loose connections
good luck
wire diagram here, downloadable
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A wiring diagram may not do him much good on that bus just find the junction box of breaker one will feed that circuit from a relay some place
closely check wiring and grounds at tailgate and harness going to it at top of engine compartment. You need to get yourself a test light from an auto parts store and probe connections there.
Scott - did you get back on the road?
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1984 Eagle Model 10S
Scott has been real quite about his new purchase could be he is having the U Haul experience "Adventures in Moving" I hope he makes it ok
Thinking out loud - Day and night mode on master? Possibly someone did some rewiring and grabbed power from circuits only energized at night mode instead of day???
Scott (Harleyman 1000) just left my shop and is headed to Flagstaff 5pm Sunday. I got his engine running correctly and then spent several days helping him straighten out the wiring.
He says he is going to stop at an Eagle Rally on his way back to St. Louis.
--Geoff
Thanks geoff. talked to him several days ago.
He was having a tough time for a new bus owner. always good to find a busnut to help.
How did the t drive in a 04 look. I saw the coach at Daytona bike rally quite a few years ago but could not find any one to talk to or let me get a good look.
uncle ned
Since he will be on I 40 I will keep a eye out for him in case he has problems on my way to the Eagles rally,I think Scott has my cell number
Hey guys, Im almost at Flagstaff, and it's 2:38 am. I was blowing alot of black smoke all the way here, and head lights kept going on and off( made driving thru the mountains in the dark very interesting). Im parked at a camping world and there is a Harley dealer next door. Im thinking I might have found the right spot to park for the night ;D Hey Clifford, I lost all my numbers when my old phone died, so please call me 573-705-0114
Scott
Clifford, you better bring that old jeep towbar i left at your place,on your way to Kansas you might need it....alot...lol
I assume somone has told you to not use the fuel pedal so much to control the smoke. At that altitude you loose about 20% of your engine performance so be extra soft on the fuel petal. It will be a dog with or without the black smoke so save some money on the black Unburnt fuel. My lights used to dim severely everytime my factory ac/heater blower motors would kick in. They pull lots of 12v juice. Is that system cycling on and off causing a problem or short?
Scott,
Glad you are still rolling! Keep us in the loop. The first days are the hardest days :)
-Sean
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all of the electrical stuff is located in the left hand driver panel or the compartment just aft of the Curb Side Drive Wheel. and a few odds and ends in the engine compartment
Quote from: Scott Crosby on August 12, 2013, 03:49:48 AM
I assume somone has told you to not use the fuel pedal so much to control the smoke. At that altitude you loose about 20% of your engine performance so be extra soft on the fuel petal. It will be a dog with or without the black smoke so save some money on the black Unburnt fuel. My lights used to dim severely everytime my factory ac/heater blower motors would kick in. They pull lots of 12v juice. Is that system cycling on and off causing a problem or short?
Im not using the factory heating or cooling, and there going totally off for like 30 seconds then coming back on. Other times they just flicker on and off like a loose wire, but since it works more often than it doesn't Im thinking it isn't a loose wire?
Quote from: saddleup on August 12, 2013, 02:13:13 AM
Clifford, you better bring that old jeep towbar i left at your place,on your way to Kansas you might need it....alot...lol
Are you going to tow my bus back to St.Louis, so I can use the saved gas money to buy the new wiper motor, inverter, refrigerator, and satellite system I need for the bus? :(
The headlight factory wiring is very simple, no relays or fuses involved. You can get a wiring diagram here: http://manuals.lenstudio.com/GM_PD4104MaintX-5818.pdf (http://manuals.lenstudio.com/GM_PD4104MaintX-5818.pdf)
In the meantime, here is the circuit (assuming previous owners haven't screwed it all up)
In the drivers panel from Breaker 11 to term 21 to the headlamp switch. From there back to term 62 or 82, can't read it. From there to the head lamp/fog lamp switch and from there to the dimmer switch and on to the headlights.
So, does it do the same thing on high or low beam? The problem is before the dimmer, if not, it is after the dimmer. The dimmer switch itself is a likely suspect, it is a pretty harsh environment in the tool compartment.
Good luck.
My dimmer switch will cause the lights to go completely out if I hit it at the wrong angle. They have always come back on when I hit it the second time. It's been a long time since I have done a night trip. This reminded me to order a new one!
Those dimmer foot switches are very prone to rust, especially when not used for a while.
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That is a link to my bus. I made it home. I replaced the fuse box and the lights never went out again.
I was trying to stop at the Rally in Kansas and see some busnuts, but got stranded in Co with dead starter batteries and missed you all
the bus looks great!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nice looking coach ;D
Thanks, she looks much better in that picture, than in real like. She is all ready a love hate relationship
No wonder that you bought that bus...she is sharp!
Scott i thought i had problems bringing my bus home,it only broke down once,glad you got home safe.
Having a pretty bus, as Scott's is, is great, But having dependable, fully functional house systems, and a mechanically sound bus is much higher on my list of importance. With our old buses it takes a while to get them into that condition and constant maintenance to keep them there. I know I enjoy working on our bus to keep it in good condition, and have most of the skills to do so, but not everyone does. Those who don't enjoy working on their buses or have the skills, will need to find a reliable person(s) to keep them up, and be willing and able to pay for their services.
Good luck, Sam
Quote from: harleyman_1000 on August 19, 2013, 03:45:15 PM
Thanks, she looks much better in that picture, than in real like. She is all ready a love hate relationship
so the honeymoon is over....what seems to be the first thing on the wish list.
ps anyone who has A Harley ought to be pretty able to make it work... ;D
In this day and age that is not true.
Good looking bus Scott, I bought my bus in Portland and drove it home to Nebraska about 1500 miles, only issues I had was when I turned the lights on the wipers went off, that was an easy fix, I have been working on my bus every chance I get, its been three years now but I have made alot of progress I am coming to the end of the list, believe me it has all been worth it. have fun with it >>>> John.
Wish list? Do I get a genie to grant my wishes? ;D Lets see a windshield wiper motor, a fridge, new wiring, new holding tanks, a book on how to build a bus or rv systems, oh and a place to park it, or a way to get her into my driveway
:-\
Quote from: harleyman_1000 on August 20, 2013, 09:47:58 AM
Wish list? Do I get a genie to grant my wishes? ;D Lets see a windshield wiper motor, a fridge, new wiring, new holding tanks, a book on how to build a bus or rv systems, oh and a place to park it, or a way to get her into my driveway
:-\
Just aim it and put it in reverse! (might take ya a couple tries but you'll get it!)
;D BK ;D
Quote from: eagle19952 on August 20, 2013, 09:04:49 AManyone who has A Harley ought to be pretty able to make it work... ;D
At least he's already know how to use a big hammer - and that's valuable. ;)
Im thinking Im going to need to get a very big hammer! Actually Im thinking all new set of very big tools ::)
Nice looking bus you bought. Do you have any of the inside?
If you have a Harley, then you have the cussin' part figured out. The rest is pretty @#^*$&? easy.
The first thing I learned when I bought my bike is that HD stands for Hundred Dollars. Owning a Harley is perfect training for owning a bus. Everything you touch is going to cost you. 8)
Quote from: Miss Scarlett on August 20, 2013, 03:55:43 PM
The first thing I learned when I bought my bike is that HD stands for Hundred Dollars. Owning a Harley is perfect training for owning a bus. Everything you touch is going to cost you. 8)
I need to find a rich lady. Do any of you still have your exwifes number? :-X
From the stories I've always heard it is the EX-wives that have all the guy's money.
Quote from: Miss Scarlett on August 20, 2013, 05:29:37 PM
From the stories I've always heard it is the EX-wives that have all the guy's money.
Yes that is why I want all of everyones exwifes numbers ;D
Quote from: harleyman_1000 on August 20, 2013, 05:13:31 PM
I need to find a rich lady. Do any of you still have your exwifes number? :-X
I would be glad to give you my ex-wifes number, but she might end up with your bus too! LOL! LOL!!!!
Good luck!
Steve 5B.....
Quote from: harleyman_1000 on August 20, 2013, 12:09:59 PMIm thinking Im going to need to get a very big hammer! Actually Im thinking all new set of very big tools ::)
Just use the hammer that you use for adjusting the Harley's carb - that's big enough for most things on a bus.
Quote from: 5B Steve on August 20, 2013, 06:32:12 PM
I would be glad to give you my ex-wifes number, but she might end up with your bus too! LOL! LOL!!!!
Good luck!
Steve 5B.....
Nope I won't marry her
Quote from: Miss Scarlett on August 20, 2013, 03:55:43 PM
The first thing I learned when I bought my bike is that HD stands for Hundred Dollars. Owning a Harley is perfect training for owning a bus. Everything you touch is going to cost you. 8)
A hundred dollars in Harley Money is a thousand dollars in Bus Money.
yep, 2 new tires for the Harley...$250-300. Two new tires for the bus $1000.
Detroits also need a piece of cardboard 10 times bigger than a Harley :D
Mine doesn't leak ::)
Quote from: Miss Scarlett on August 21, 2013, 07:25:17 PMMine doesn't leak ::)
Put some oil in it and see what happens! ;D
You guys know why getting divorced is expensive, right?
Because it's worth it!
My ex insisted she get my motorcycle and enclosed car trailer. The judge asked her if she rode a motorcycle. "No". Then the judge asked if she owned a vehicle to tow the trailer with. She said "No". I ended up paying her the cash value. Scott, PM me and get her info to you! Lol!!
A guy recently told me he knew Heaven was going to be a happy place because he had prayed and asked God to put his wife's mansion on the other side of town!