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Title: GM Air Compressor
Post by: travlinman on November 15, 2012, 07:41:09 AM
Hey Guys,

With my starter and Webasto both working it is time for my next repair. My air compressor has been slowly dying for the last year and before my next long drive it needs to go. If you are interested in a bit of my compressors history here is a few posts:

http://www.busconversions.com/bbs/index.php?topic=24561.msg269275#msg269275 (http://www.busconversions.com/bbs/index.php?topic=24561.msg269275#msg269275)

http://www.busconversions.com/bbs/index.php?topic=24308.msg266591#msg266591 (http://www.busconversions.com/bbs/index.php?topic=24308.msg266591#msg266591)

So here is todays question, My current compressor is listed as obsolete by Haldex, it is shown here:

http://epi.hbsna.com/Products/Product.asp?msi=0&sid=2FC7E4B0926C445498BF3F6D14F6AE41&pf_id=280609X&dept_id=3143# (http://epi.hbsna.com/Products/Product.asp?msi=0&sid=2FC7E4B0926C445498BF3F6D14F6AE41&pf_id=280609X&dept_id=3143#)

This compressor is listed as a compatable replacement:

[url]http://epi.hbsna.com/products/product.asp?msi=0&sid=2FC7E4B0926C445498BF3F6D14F6AE41&pf_id=EL16050X&dept_id=3060] (http://[/url)http://epi.hbsna.com/products/product.asp?msi=0&sid=2FC7E4B0926C445498BF3F6D14F6AE41&pf_id=EL16050X&dept_id=3060

Will the compressor in the last link work on my left turning 8v71?

Thanks for reading, I know I can't be the only one who has faced this recently!

Cheers,

TM

PS What happened to the spell check?

Edit to fix second link.
Title: Re: GM Air Compressor
Post by: Len Silva on November 15, 2012, 08:02:20 AM
The cam drives all turn in the same direction regardless of the engine rotation.
Title: Re: GM Air Compressor
Post by: luvrbus on November 15, 2012, 08:20:46 AM
Like Len said the only thing turning backwards is the starter and crankshaft
Title: Re: GM Air Compressor
Post by: travlinman on November 15, 2012, 08:43:51 AM
OK, Sweet that makes my life a whole lot easier!

Thanks
Title: Re: GM Air Compressor
Post by: wildbob24 on November 15, 2012, 10:59:22 AM
Steve,

Both of the linked compressors(which appear to be the same, btw) are listed as 0 degree tilt. Your 4106 should have a 45 degree tilt compressor.

Bob
Title: Re: GM Air Compressor
Post by: travlinman on November 15, 2012, 01:10:09 PM
Bob,

How will i know if the compressor that is at the parts store is a 45 degree tilt?

I will post up some photos here of the actual one in just a bit.

TM
Title: Re: GM Air Compressor
Post by: eagle19952 on November 15, 2012, 01:28:21 PM
EL16072X  Reman. Detroit Diesel 4°  Right  Left  DDC Bus Application 4° Tilt  -  N7205S  1600
I guess the only sure way to know is compare it to the one you have.
http://epi.hbsna.com/products/product.asp?msi=0&sid=2FC7E4B0926C445498BF3F6D14F6AE41&dept_id=3060&pf_id=EL16072X (http://epi.hbsna.com/products/product.asp?msi=0&sid=2FC7E4B0926C445498BF3F6D14F6AE41&dept_id=3060&pf_id=EL16072X)


Head Rotation:    Right 
Block Rotation:    Left 
Application:    DDC Bus Application 4° Tilt   
Notes:    - 
OEM Part Number:    N7205S 
Core Group:    1600 
Title: Re: GM Air Compressor
Post by: wildbob24 on November 15, 2012, 06:38:58 PM
Steve,

My apologies. I got my MCI and GM compressors mixed up. The MCIs use the laid over compressor.

The difference is in the location of the oil drain hole. The GM's drain should be at 6 o'clock and the MCIs are closer to 4 o'clock, with the compressor standing upright.

You want to make sure your replacement has the drain in the same place as your old one.

Bob
Title: Re: GM Air Compressor
Post by: travlinman on November 15, 2012, 07:27:50 PM
Eagle - That is exactly my plan, when the weather allows I'm going to get the two side by side.

Bob - Thanks for the up date, you had me wondering this afternoon. Now I just need to learn where the oil drain is!

TM
Title: Re: GM Air Compressor
Post by: wildbob24 on November 16, 2012, 06:46:03 PM
Steve,

The oil drain is just a hole in the casting that allows the oil in the compressor crankcase to drain into the engine housing. After you remove your compressor, if you'll look in the area where the drive gear is located, you'll see it.

Bob
Title: Re: GM Air Compressor
Post by: travlinman on November 17, 2012, 06:52:28 PM
Thanks Bob!