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Title: For The Prevost Guys With 60 Series
Post by: luvrbus on October 10, 2012, 07:20:53 PM
Are any of you guys running a fuel cooler I guess it was a option on some models anyways mine had one but the fire damaged it and Prevost is very,very proud of that item is there a after market for the cooler

Living in Az I prefer to keep it cooler fuel adds hp (so I am told) then I worry about the piece of junk plastic for a fuel tank getting to hot any ideas

good luck
Title: Re: For The Prevost Guys With 60 Series
Post by: Boomer on October 10, 2012, 07:37:42 PM
Standard, not optional either add or delete.  All our newer ones had it and when specing the coach there were no options on it as I remember Clifford.  I think it was mandated  by DDC.  Hell, there was so much stuff stacked on the radiator it was a wonder they ran cool (CAC, aux A/C condenser, fuel cooler).  You might try finding  someone running a hot engine and shoot the lines with an IR gun to see what they run I would not be surprised if everything would be OK to eliminate it.  You're worried about cooler fuel gaining more HP when you are running 650 hp, lol?
Title: Re: For The Prevost Guys With 60 Series
Post by: luvrbus on October 10, 2012, 07:45:24 PM
Somewhere in that area Boomer lol I been around the old 2 strokes so long when the fuel gets hot they kinda get sleepy around 4 in the afternoon on a hot day
Title: Re: For The Prevost Guys With 60 Series
Post by: Boomer on October 10, 2012, 08:42:22 PM
Well, you could do like us old drag racers did 100 years ago, make a cool can with a coil of copper fuel line in it and filled with ice, lol.
Title: Re: For The Prevost Guys With 60 Series
Post by: B_K on October 10, 2012, 10:57:41 PM
Quote from: Boomer on October 10, 2012, 08:42:22 PM
Well, you could do like us old drag racers did 100 years ago, make a cool can with a coil of copper fuel line in it and filled with ice, lol.

Yeah Boomer that was done with road racers and roundy rounders too!

(PS from personal experience "dry ice" can cause worse problems like frozen fuel!)
;D  BK  ;D
Title: Re: For The Prevost Guys With 60 Series
Post by: Hard Headed Ken on October 11, 2012, 05:08:15 AM
Some related info I found on DDCSN

http://www.ddcsn.com/cps/rde/xbcr/ddcsn/3-ddecv-06a.pdf (http://www.ddcsn.com/cps/rde/xbcr/ddcsn/3-ddecv-06a.pdf)

Ken
Title: Re: For The Prevost Guys With 60 Series
Post by: stevet903 on October 11, 2012, 08:35:40 AM
What model do you have?  Many of the H3s and XLIIs used part number 531422 as a fuel cooler.  Prevost wants $41.91 for it.  Steve
Title: Re: For The Prevost Guys With 60 Series
Post by: luvrbus on October 11, 2012, 10:20:35 AM
The one I have Prevost is asking over 500 bucks for it
Title: Re: For The Prevost Guys With 60 Series
Post by: B_K on October 11, 2012, 03:59:53 PM
Clifford maybe the "Prevost Prouds" have told Prevost who you are so they are giving YOU a special Prevost Proud price LOL!  :D
;D  BK  ;D
Title: Re: For The Prevost Guys With 60 Series
Post by: TomC on October 11, 2012, 04:25:03 PM
You could use a Hayden cooler-just have to position it away from engine heat.  Good Luck, TomC
Title: Re: For The Prevost Guys With 60 Series
Post by: Mex-Busnut on October 11, 2012, 05:26:16 PM
Is there any advantage to adding a fuel cooler to a 6V92TA?
Title: Re: For The Prevost Guys With 60 Series
Post by: TomC on October 12, 2012, 12:10:02 PM
There is advantages to adding a fuel cooler to any engine with just a single tank. Cooler fuel is denser, so you'll have more fuel injected-hence a bit more power then with hot fuel.  And since the fuel is what lubricates the fuel injectors, it can only be good.  Good Luck, TomC
Title: Re: For The Prevost Guys With 60 Series
Post by: B_K on October 12, 2012, 04:00:10 PM
Clifford I was speaking to "The Don" this afternoon and asked him about it.
He said for $500 bucks for the "Prevost part" he'd just use a "Hayden" cooler for about $40-$50 and said with their new "stack-able" design you can make it any size you want and for another $100 you could even put a fan on it!
Title: Re: For The Prevost Guys With 60 Series
Post by: luvrbus on October 12, 2012, 07:43:29 PM
Mine does have a fan BK, shroud and 24 v motor all the plastic melted I think I am going with 50 dollar cooler
Title: Re: For The Prevost Guys With 60 Series
Post by: Uglydog56 on October 12, 2012, 09:09:36 PM
How much room do you have to work with?  Get the smallest radiator you can find at the junkyard - will already have a fan on it.
Title: Re: For The Prevost Guys With 60 Series
Post by: Hard Headed Ken on October 17, 2012, 05:23:09 AM
Quote from: luvrbus on October 10, 2012, 07:20:53 PM
Are any of you guys running a fuel cooler I guess it was a option on some models anyways mine had one but the fire damaged it and Prevost is very,very proud of that item is there a after market for the cooler

Living in Az I prefer to keep it cooler fuel adds hp (so I am told) then I worry about the piece of junk plastic for a fuel tank getting to hot any ideas

good luck

I made a trip this past weekend and on the way back I monitored the fuel temperature with my diagnostic software. My bus had set at the campground for 2 days in 60 / 70 weather. It was about a 3 hour trip back home mostly interstate at 70 MPH and 55 / 60 degrees outside. The fuel temp gradually climbed most of the way back to 107 degrees, it looked like it was starting to level off at that point. My engine came from a truck and didn't have a fuel cooler maybe because the truck fuel tanks are more exposed to the air it didn't need one. I think I'm going to add a fuel cooler because a 90 or 100 degree day could add 30 or 40 degrees to the fuel temps I saw on that trip. Even though the ECM progam has a "fuel temp compensation" table I think cooler fuel is better.

Ken  
Title: Re: For The Prevost Guys With 60 Series
Post by: stevet903 on October 17, 2012, 05:37:30 AM
My 8v92 will go from the mid 70's to about 140 degrees after 4 hours of driving in the summer.  I think it can get even hotter the more you drive because there is less fuel in the tank.  After watching that on my Silverleaf I would definitely put in a fuel cooler if I could find one to fit in front of my radiator.  Does anyone know where the best place is to plumb it in?