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Title: Holding Tank Removal MCI 8
Post by: James77MCI8 on June 16, 2012, 09:42:08 AM
I saved the best for last on my Demo. Could someone give me some guidance on removing the OE holding tank from an MCI 8 and the stainless steel floor pan from the bathroom? I could go at with the sawzall but I hate to cut out more than required.

Happy Bus'n,

Rusty
Title: Re: Holding Tank Removal MCI 8
Post by: Melbo on June 16, 2012, 10:14:38 AM
I did not have the pleasure of that chore but have been told my more knowledgeable people than me that they took those toilets and holding tanks and built the bus around them.

Hopefully someone who has done it will give you some pointers and make it go easier for you.

Melbo
Title: Re: Holding Tank Removal MCI 8
Post by: Stormcloud on June 16, 2012, 06:06:20 PM
I just completed this nasty chore last week ( while the engine/transmission is temporarily removed). I would expect yours is of similar design.

The tank was held up with a long strap that slung under the tank and attached with t-bolts to the bulkhead. Much easier to see with the fibreglas cover of the tank removed. I think there were also a couple of miscellaneous bolts, but nothing hidden at all. The clamp around the big inlet chute is a huge stainless band clamp; only 1 bolt to cut/loosen.

It was not NEARLY as tough a chore as I thought it would be( based on what I've read ), but with the easy accessibility it made the job much easier.

I also removed the oil bath air cleaners and giant air box they attach to. I was going to simply replace the filters with 4 paper filters, but when I reached up inside the airbox after the filter removal, there was a MASSIVE amount of CRUD there.   Oily, gooey sludgeall over the inside; so much that I that I removed with the entire airbox assembly. Now I have room on BOTH sides of the engine; I will have to pick up a pair of air filters and construct a bit of an air filter holder/bracket, but it should be much cleaner than what was there.
Title: Re: Holding Tank Removal MCI 8
Post by: James77MCI8 on June 16, 2012, 06:36:02 PM
Hi Storm,

Thanks for the reply. Mine is an MCI 8. haven't seen the strap and such. Must be mounted differently on an 8 than a 7.

Rusty
Title: Re: Holding Tank Removal MCI 8
Post by: John316 on June 16, 2012, 07:52:51 PM
James,

I will venture a guess that your tank is just about the same as Marks (MCI 9) and mine (MCIDL3). You cannot see the strap by looking at it. Here is why. There is a grey fiberglass cover over everything. Unless you see the stainless steel, you aren't seeing the actual tank. Take a hammer and prybar and rip that cover off. You could sawzall it too. Whatever works. When you see raw stainless steel, you are at the tank. You should see the straps with bolts holding each side up. I took my impact, with an extension, and buzzed them out. No issue at all.

Let us know how it goes.

John
Title: Re: Holding Tank Removal MCI 8
Post by: Stormcloud on June 16, 2012, 07:56:35 PM
I had a closer look at mine....there are 2 straps holding it up in place. I thought yours would be the same (or similar). See attached.

I have a couple of photos of mine,....hope this works!
Title: Re: Holding Tank Removal MCI 8
Post by: TheHollands! on June 17, 2012, 08:11:57 AM
On mine the floor pan had a few bolts hidden in the plywood. I cut the perimeter about 1" outside the pan to expose them. Good luck
Title: Re: Holding Tank Removal MCI 8
Post by: James77MCI8 on June 17, 2012, 08:55:21 AM
Thanks Guys,
Storm, your tank is the san=me as mine. I didn't see the second strap. Your pictures made it much clearer!. Iwas afraid the pan had some hidden bolts. Thanks for that info.

Onward abd upward!

Rusty
Title: Re: Holding Tank Removal MCI 8
Post by: Stormcloud on June 17, 2012, 05:04:23 PM
Oh, yeah. Wear rubber gloves!
Title: Re: Holding Tank Removal MCI 8
Post by: James77MCI8 on June 17, 2012, 06:06:31 PM
Looks as if the tank is attached at 4 places?
Title: Re: Holding Tank Removal MCI 8
Post by: Stormcloud on June 17, 2012, 06:15:16 PM
Yes, 4 bolts hold it up. Plus the poo chute clamp.
Title: Re: Holding Tank Removal MCI 8
Post by: Stormcloud on June 17, 2012, 06:16:03 PM
There will also be an air line or water line to the tank for washing/rinsing.
Title: Re: Holding Tank Removal MCI 8
Post by: James77MCI8 on June 17, 2012, 07:09:35 PM
The two forward bolts are behind the bulkhead and attached there? How did you get to these?

Thanks,

Rusty
Title: Re: Holding Tank Removal MCI 8
Post by: Stormcloud on June 17, 2012, 07:23:20 PM
I used a long 3/8" extension on an air ratchet. But there was no engine in the way either.   :)
Title: Re: Holding Tank Removal MCI 8
Post by: John316 on June 18, 2012, 05:35:46 AM
Or if you really want to cheat, take a 4in grinder, cut the straps first, then take the tank out. After all of that, you can access your bolts better.

I took mine out like Mark. Impact with extension.

John
Title: Re: Holding Tank Removal MCI 8
Post by: James77MCI8 on June 18, 2012, 06:55:46 PM
The deed is done! The tank is out! Thanks guys for all the help. .
Couldn't have done it without your help.Now on to the floor pan!
Title: Re: Holding Tank Removal MCI 8
Post by: Design Dog on June 19, 2012, 12:07:07 AM
Oh the FUN!

I think the tank was about the only thing I didnt have to do. That and the inside baggage railing.

The floor pan believe it or not is a bit of a pain. There is a hidden lip that grabs under the plywood. That keeps it in place.
Eventually I ended up cutting it out with a cutting wheel then I redid that section of flooring. You can probably get away with not replacing any flooring. Usually underneath that is not great.

Dont forget the doors to the blowers open up and your side engine doors.
Air chisel, cutting wheel, grinder, and a manual cold steel tile chisel are your best friends.
http://www.harborfreight.com/stone-masons-big-head-chisel-6758.html (http://www.harborfreight.com/stone-masons-big-head-chisel-6758.html)

I have an MC8 and took everything out. Including all the lav hoses etc and fixed the hole from the tank you just took out.

Let me know if you need more help.