IF she represents MAK he needs to confirm that! simple she speaks for me. otherwise she holds no authority. isn't hwybus another publication? Bob
???? 177 reads .and no comment from one who can give certification to kellie's tru status.
Googled it. New player, same game, same name at the top, and another month filled with no mag. At least they are courting the advertizers. They are the ones who pay the bill. Us subcribers are just the fools dat through our dimes in the wishing well!!!
P.S. Just a couple months away from a one year without a hard copy. I'm sure the flower money is already spent, but you would think we would at least get a KISS!!! NOT SKEARD!!
Was at IBP yesterday. Stack of HWY BUS mag on their counter. Bob
Kellie called me yesterday to ask if I would continue to contribute articles. I told her I was burned out and the it would be a few months before I would even think about working on a couple that I have gathered some background information for.
I have to say that I am a bit surprised about the number of advertisers that have signed back up.
Jim
CORRECTION!!! Flower money spent on HWYBUS!!LOL
That is why they are trying to get you guys to sign up on the social part of this board HWY BUS is old Mikey lol change names no honoring past commitments but they don't have to worry about me sending any Georges to it
good luck
So if the mag name change is to Hwy Bus...does that mean our subscription to busconversion is no longer valid and we have to pay for a separate subscription if we want hwy bus? (www.hwybus.com (http://www.hwybus.com) - Future home of something quite cool?)
Looked up the WHOIS entry for the domain name - hwybus.com is registered to Mike Kadletz. So think it's safe to say if she's somehow officially related to endeavor.
http://www.networksolutions.com/whois-search/hwybus.com (http://www.networksolutions.com/whois-search/hwybus.com)
I'll be waiting for consistent magazine delivery, fulfilling the missing volumes owed to subscribers.
Only then will I consider a continuation.
Perhaps implement the same system for subscribers as for advertisers?
Advertisers don't pay until the magazine goes out.
No risk for them, no risk for us?
I'll post this great idea on the other thread.
happy coaching!
buswarrior
Quote from: robertglines1 on March 15, 2012, 07:13:51 AM
Was at IBP yesterday. Stack of HWY BUS mag on their counter. Bob
Were the HWY BUS magazines recent? I thought I read somewhere that Mike closed that magazine a long time ago. www.hwybus.com (http://www.hwybus.com) is just a parked website.
Sean sent you a PM ;)
Kellie has agreed to help out with the magazine. It requires some full time attention, which she has agreed to do. She has been contacting advertisers to see which ones will continue to support us. None of them will be sending any money to us until the magazine is printed. If we can not get enough advertiser to come on board we will not be able to print and mail the magazine. I will front the money to get the magazine printed and mailed if we have the advertisers support. If people want to help Kellie with info, stories and ads, great, please consider that she is trying to help. We will honor all subscriptions with the printed issue. For those that want to bash us or start their own magazine, we wish you well.
If anyone wants to "take charge" let me know.
mak
Thank you MAK for valadating kellie's involvement. Bob
Thank you for the update.
happy coaching!
buswarrior
If we can not get enough advertiser to come on board we will not be able to print and mail the magazine. I will front the money to get the magazine printed and mailed if we have the advertisers support.
So I guess that means if the advertisers will not buy into this, there will be no magazine?? Last time I talked to you about advertising, you told me you have app. 10k subscribers. According to the BCM home page, each of those pays $ 38.00 per year. That comes to $ 380,000.00 that you have collected for one year. I personally signed up for three years for $ 99.00. If ten percent go for two, and ten percent for three that ups the total to app. $ 473,000.00. Now that if a pretty big chunk of change to the average Joe. An extra 473k in anybody's account these days would be a welcome addition. In my humble opinion, not delivering a mag. would require a refund to all involved with interest according to US federal law. Not doing so would probably be an indication of fraud by the same rules. Just saying!!
If he had 10000 subscribers, if production and mailing costs are $5/issue,(which I think is low), yearly costs are $600,000.00. You begin to see why his magazine isn't out and why the whole industry is shrinking.
Well that explains everything! The light has come on !! Think I will just advertise a new widget for which I will set the selling price knowing damn well I can't deliver for anywhere near what it cost. I will promise it to deliver your widget to you monthly. I will take your money in advance. I will contact a bunch of backers and take their money for advertising on my widget. I will then delegate responsibility for my widget to anyone who is willing to work for nothing, and do as I say. Then after I have collected mega bucks from all, I will point my index finger at my backers as being the reason I failed to deliver widgets. I will then give the middle finger to the thousands of trusting customers who prepaid for widgets climb into my cardboard cabin, and ride off onto the sunset with a pocket full of free money!!! Why the heck didn't I think of this sooner!!! :D :D :D :D :D
Actually what I think you are failing to realize is that Mak didn't take your money. Mak took the magazine back over from the previous owners, who took your money. Mak seems to be trying to make the best of a bad situation. I really can't imagine getting bashed around as he is and really giving a damn if I bring a magazine back out or not. Is it going to work? Heck if I know but I have already lost my subscription fee. Anything I get from here on out is a plus. I am willing to wait and see.
First of all I don't think Mike ever relinquished control of the magazine. Secondly, not communicating with your customer is not making the best of a bad situation!! And lastly it should be obvious to everyone who doesn't give a damn!! Yes I have lost part of $ 99.00 subscription, but on the other hand I have pissed away much more for much less!!! My main problem seems to be I am the only one who will say out loud what the rest are thinking. Come to think of it same dang thing got me in trouble in the first grade!!
Guys read between the lines like Eric, Mike admitted for the first time no advertisers no magazine there none of yours or my subscription money left if the only advertisers back in the fold are the ones Kellie posted I would not depend on reading a magazine bet she had to sell those ads as low as a fire sale at Walmart.
Chip in and buy a tomestone for the magazine it won't last even if we get a copy makes no difference to me Chase took care of me
Quote from: mak on March 15, 2012, 11:05:21 AM
If anyone wants to "take charge" let me know.
mak
Mak, I'm happy to "take charge". Please email me your financial statements for the last 3 years and I'll make you a serious offer. Ian.
FWIW,about.o2.
Sporting News recently folded....i had a two year subscription with 12 months left...they calculated their quit date, raised the price of the rag and I got 4 more issues...and they had been in print about 90 years......so it goes.
oh geez...
do I have to livestream video this too?
happy coaching!
buswarrior
Quote from: buswarrior on March 16, 2012, 04:04:06 AM
oh geez...
do I have to livestream video this too?
happy coaching!
buswarrior
LOL! ;D
Actually did not mean to stirr pot! Just wanted to know kellie standing. Any attempt is noble. If it leads to printed copy/news letter or online? There are many mag subscrilers that are not board members. If kellie can create a what looks like a impossible task more power to her. Bob
Quote from: buswarrior on March 16, 2012, 04:04:06 AM
oh geez...
do I have to livestream video this too?
Please do...I am going for popcorn and chips right now. This will be interesting to watch LOL ;D
I'm ready! lol
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Lets roll that footage BW ;D
Quote from: van on March 16, 2012, 08:03:06 AM
I'm ready! lol
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Lets roll that footage BW ;D
ROFL, Van. Perfect. That is a hoot. ;D :D ;D. Perfect spot.
;D sorry for pulling that lousy stinking most awful stupid joke (AGAIN ;D)
stupid joke.wmv (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNHAxlFr00s#)
As Box Car Okie would say " slow day here on the goat farm!
Quote from: mak on March 15, 2012, 11:05:21 AM
If anyone wants to "take charge" let me know.
mak
I also have offered to "take charge". We're already in the business, willing to help or "take over".
Just say the word and we'll keep this wheel rolling.
Dave
I think the last person to " give a damn" about the BCM rag was Mike Sullivan. He poured his heart and soul into the magazine. He was late several times, but given his situation, and limited resources he did an outstanding job. I don't have a clue what happened, just what I observed. He even put together an excellent rally with no staff!! That only happens when a person takes pride in what they do!! I am in business and understand that making a profit is essential to survival. I have customers that take great pride in their reputation, and will go without food if that is what it takes. Others are about one person, themselves!! They could care less about paying the bill or making good on an agreement. I like others have contacted my CC company to report.