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Title: exaust gasket road fix
Post by: robertglines1 on March 05, 2012, 05:27:08 PM
need a bandaid fix for blown exhaust gasket on 8v92. Top easy to get to. Have new gasket but sort of afraid of taking chance of breaking stud on road. Bob
Title: Re: exaust gasket road fix
Post by: luvrbus on March 05, 2012, 06:02:20 PM
I doubt you will break a stud Bob those are pretty tuff grade 8 go with the Parts Blaster a couple of times you will be fine the nut is SAE and the stud is STD thread they will come out before breaking  and no road fix for that I know of
Title: Re: exaust gasket road fix
Post by: stevet903 on March 05, 2012, 06:07:38 PM
Sorry to hear about your troubles - I did my 89's 8v92 last summer - I can't offer any quick fix, but here's a couple of things I learned.  Heat, heat, and more heat.  I heated the nuts red hot with a torch.  I didn't break any studs off, but some of the studs were rusted solid to the nuts, and turned out of the block.  Then the coolant leaks out. (drain it first!!)  Make sure you have some new studs and nuts, you will need a few depending on when this was done last.  When putting it together, there is a lip on the block that the manifold should rest on. If it is not positioned properly, the manifold will crack when you tighten it down.  Use plenty of your favorite anti-seize compound on the studs/nuts when you put it together.  I changed all of my studs out when I had it apart - if you can find one, a Snap-On A80A stud remover is invaluable.  I don't think they make them anymore, but you can find them on Ebay or used.  Hope this helps  Steve
Title: Re: exaust gasket road fix
Post by: luvrbus on March 05, 2012, 06:24:31 PM
If you heat the nuts red hot most of the studs will have to be replaced
Title: Re: exaust gasket road fix
Post by: robertglines1 on March 05, 2012, 06:43:46 PM
soaked today-will soak tomorrow--will try . If they loosen easy will go ahead. If not I have a piece of exhaust wrap sucked down in blown crack now as temp fix (has a piece of tie wire in middle).  Will just run it till I get home and have proper tools in case I break something.Will be here 3 more weeks. I feel lucky!  Bob
Title: Re: exaust gasket road fix
Post by: Busted Knuckle on March 05, 2012, 07:09:06 PM
I have no fear you'll be able to fix it!
I know Clifford is correct about them turning out before braking. I also agree with Steve about having some new spare studs/nuts.
If it were me I'd take the chance on not draining it first, and if any studs come out have one handy to run right back in there you won't loose much coolant that way and it avoids bleeding air out of it like you'd have too if you drain it.
;D  BK  ;D
Title: Re: exaust gasket road fix
Post by: robertglines1 on March 05, 2012, 07:15:20 PM
Florida Diesel is less than 15 minutes away.  Might just run by and get a couple extras in case. Just hate to pay high dollar to have some one else do a easy job to do if I were at home.  Will know when I put socket on nuts how hard they turn. Thanks. Bob
Title: Re: exaust gasket road fix
Post by: Fred Mc on March 05, 2012, 11:25:52 PM
I had a problem betting the manifold to tailpipe nuts off my cHev 454 engine that had been untoched for 15 years.. Someone on this board recomended heating the nuts red hot to remove. Hardest part was getting the torch positioned properly to heat only the nuts. Once heated the nuts turned off like they were new.
Title: Re: exaust gasket road fix
Post by: John316 on March 06, 2012, 05:12:52 AM
Quote from: robertglines1 on March 05, 2012, 07:15:20 PM
Florida Diesel is less than 15 minutes away.  Might just run by and get a couple extras in case. Just hate to pay high dollar to have some one else do a easy job to do if I were at home.  Will know when I put socket on nuts how hard they turn. Thanks. Bob

Florida Diesel out of Ocala? If so, they are one of the best shops we have been to. Those guys there are good, and they know what they are doing. Go for them, for sure!

John
Title: Re: exaust gasket road fix
Post by: Scott & Heather on March 06, 2012, 05:46:22 AM
Wish I could help Bob...we're still down here in Apopka hoping we'd get a glimpse of you and Judy.
Title: Re: exaust gasket road fix
Post by: JackConrad on March 06, 2012, 05:51:26 AM
Bob,
   We are in Summerfield, let me know if you need any help.  Jack
Title: Re: exaust gasket road fix
Post by: bevans6 on March 06, 2012, 07:00:28 AM
Just a thought on this, may not help but...   You can remove the manifold by just loosening the nuts a few turns and lifting it up and off.  If you get a stud that is turning and you want to try to leave it in so as to not loose a lot of coolant, try just loosening, take the manifold off, then you might be able to grab the stud with some vise grips or a small pipe wrench and get the nut off so you can get the gasket replaced.  Or with far better access just whip the old stud out and slip the new one in with a minimum of fuss and muss.

Brian
Title: Re: exaust gasket road fix
Post by: robertglines1 on March 06, 2012, 07:41:35 AM
Thanks for the help offer guys: and info. Will try nuts today and if they turn easy will go for it.   If not will go with temp fix in place;if has 90% of leak stopped. Then fix at leisure when I get home. Looking at major down time this year for me. Will fix before surgery on back that I have been trying to avoid for 6 years. Now unstable. sucks! So something that would be simple at home -ya know the rest.
Title: Re: exaust gasket road fix
Post by: Tim Bookmiller on March 06, 2012, 01:32:36 PM
Bob if I can help or even do it my self ...give me a shout and I would be more than happy to run up there

Tim
Title: Re: exaust gasket road fix
Post by: Len Silva on March 06, 2012, 02:49:30 PM
If you cannot get it fixed and must drive home on a patch, be aware of where the exhaust leak is going.  Exhaust leaks cause fires.
Title: Re: exaust gasket road fix
Post by: robertglines1 on March 06, 2012, 03:09:12 PM
Have about 150 miles on patch. It seams to be holding and turbo pressure is back up. Thanks for offer Tim I actually put temp patch on at your place when I discovered it. There are local guys that have offered also. Nice to have busnut support. Did not try today but did soak studs again with PB Blaster. The leak is on top and the patch is wedged in real good and has tie wire on top of that around manifold.  Thanks to all. Believe me safety is my first concern.  Bob.
Title: Re: exaust gasket road fix
Post by: gus on March 06, 2012, 03:09:28 PM
A nutcracker has worked well for me when it is possible to get to the nuts, the crackers are kind of stout and thick.
Title: Re: exaust gasket road fix
Post by: robertglines1 on March 08, 2012, 12:38:34 PM
Located deep well 11/16  6 point.  Have plenty at home-none on  bus./ever other size----so cold engine and 45 minutes later all is well.  next job = nap. I'm on vacation and am a senior citizen.    Bob
Title: Re: exaust gasket road fix
Post by: Van on March 08, 2012, 01:04:46 PM
You might wanna try that nutcracker trick ;D Our goal is to get you fixed whether you like it or not :D ;D Oh!! sorry! just read you are on vacation, as you were! Resume vacation ;) :) :)

 Wishing I was on Vacation :'(
Have a spledid vacation :)
        Van
Title: Re: exaust gasket road fix
Post by: luvrbus on March 08, 2012, 01:07:50 PM
Bob writes like I do read between the lines I think he got her fixed lol
Title: Re: exaust gasket road fix
Post by: Van on March 08, 2012, 01:20:56 PM
Oh yea! your right Clifford :-[. See I do need a vacation, is it may yet sheesh! ;D
Title: Re: exaust gasket road fix
Post by: Busted Knuckle on March 08, 2012, 04:46:40 PM
Quote from: luvrbus on March 08, 2012, 01:07:50 PM
Bob writes like I do read between the lines I think he got her fixed lol

He's on vacation. Didn't wanna spend to much of his nap time typing boring details! LOL!
;D  BK  ;D