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Title: Picture - Eagle Rolls Over In Bad Weather
Post by: DKO on March 03, 2012, 03:03:08 PM
Gospel Singer Tim Greene's bus rolled over in High winds this week. It is a miracle the two people aboard survived.

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DKO
Title: Re: Picture - Eagle Rolls Over In Bad Weather
Post by: Zeroclearance on March 03, 2012, 03:35:42 PM
From reports it says that he was ejected thru the windshield>> with troopers finding him trapped under the bus.  They said that "he was blessed"

He said that he was fighting the winds and was blown over to the shoulder > it was soft and the bus rolled.
Title: Re: Picture - Eagle Rolls Over In Bad Weather
Post by: buswarrior on March 03, 2012, 03:38:35 PM
Well, there's a big difference between catching a soft shoulder and being blown over.

Notice how the view of the interior shows things coming adrift.

Fasten your conversion bits like it has to roll over...

happy coaching!
buswarrior
Title: Re: Picture - Eagle Rolls Over In Bad Weather
Post by: RJ on March 03, 2012, 05:41:03 PM
Dunno who's coach this is, but this Prevost LaMirage got flipped & rolled by the tornado that swept thru Branson, MO last week.  He was parked in a WalMart parking lot when the storm hit.  Walked away with just a few scratches.  Lucky guy!



Title: Re: Picture - Eagle Rolls Over In Bad Weather
Post by: artvonne on March 03, 2012, 08:08:07 PM
  Ive seen seat pedestals bolted to the wood floor with nothing underneath but some large washers. Cabinets screwed to the floor and wood paneling. Refrigerators simply pushed back within a wall cavity hoping gravity alone will keep it there. Dinette tables and chairs free standing. If you look, both these Buses remained fairly intact, structurally, but all the interior junk broke loose.

  BW should be heard loudly here, that stuff needs to be as secure as anything in an airliner, if not more so. Cabinets should be fastened to the outer wall steel tubing securely enough to take a major impact or rollover. Any through bolts in the floor should be backed with large backing plates or securely fastened into original Bus structure. Same with seat pedestals. A 200 pound man belted into a seat, a 10 G deceleration will create more than a ton of torque at the seat pedestal, and will rip it right out of the floor if all thats underneath is some fat washers. And 10G is not much more than a light impact.

  And having the seats secure wont be much help when a 200 pound fridge full of food starts flying toward you. Or a loose (unbelted) passenger.

  A guy I knew learned that lesson real well. He was hauling some Triumph motorcycles back to Wisconsin in his Van. He blew a tire and went off the road into the ditch. None of the bikes were tied down so they came at him, one impaling its handlebar through his chest. He was pretty religious about tying things down after that.
Title: Re: Picture - Eagle Rolls Over In Bad Weather
Post by: gus on March 04, 2012, 01:57:43 PM
What is this morbid obsession with bus accidents?
Title: Re: Picture - Eagle Rolls Over In Bad Weather
Post by: buswarrior on March 04, 2012, 02:00:50 PM
Slow news day?

There go I but for the grace of a deity whom I fail to follow closely?

happy coaching!
buswarrior
Title: Re: Picture - Eagle Rolls Over In Bad Weather
Post by: belfert on March 04, 2012, 03:03:52 PM
I think part of the reason people bring up bus accidents here is so folks can learn from them.

I also think it is kinda like a skydiving forum.  I expect at a skydiving forum skydiving accidents get brought up too.
Title: Re: Picture - Eagle Rolls Over In Bad Weather
Post by: artvonne on March 04, 2012, 03:23:14 PM
Quote from: gus on March 04, 2012, 01:57:43 PM
What is this morbid obsession with bus accidents?

  If it saves one life, or one Bus, I think its worth posting every one we come across. Plus the less it happens, the less the rest of the leftist world looks for something to regulate.
Title: Re: Picture - Eagle Rolls Over In Bad Weather
Post by: kyle4501 on March 04, 2012, 03:26:02 PM
I have heard people on these boards say they don't need to anchor things down because they don't drive like that.
I wouldn't think anyone puts a bunch of time into building one of these just to crash it on purpose!


Anchor EVERYTHING down as though you life depended on it - some day, it just might.
Title: Re: Picture - Eagle Rolls Over In Bad Weather
Post by: belfert on March 04, 2012, 03:42:53 PM
I know I need to do a better job anchoring things.  My friends like to place things on the floor that would make nice missiles in an accident.  I need to do something about my overheads as they are just wire closet shelving screwed to the frame of the bus.  Everything would fly off in a rollover or something.  One of the overheads has no front bulkhead and stuff poured off when we had to brake hard to avoid a cow in the road last fall.
Title: Re: Picture - Eagle Rolls Over In Bad Weather
Post by: opus on March 04, 2012, 03:53:37 PM
What is it with people not wearing seat belts?
Title: Re: Picture - Eagle Rolls Over In Bad Weather
Post by: RJ on March 04, 2012, 05:25:30 PM
Quote from: opus on March 04, 2012, 03:53:37 PM
What is it with people not wearing seat belts?

Same reason busnuts don't do proper pre-trip inspections?

;)
Title: Re: Picture - Eagle Rolls Over In Bad Weather
Post by: opus on March 04, 2012, 05:37:59 PM
Quote from: RJ on March 04, 2012, 05:25:30 PM


Same reason busnuts don't do proper pre-trip inspections?

;)

Silly people.
Title: Re: Picture - Eagle Rolls Over In Bad Weather
Post by: Ericbsc on March 05, 2012, 05:23:25 AM
I've seen some busses rolling down the road on 10-15 year old tires, with brakes that were last adjusted in 1986. At that point bolting anything down is probably a waste!!LOL
Title: Re: Picture - Eagle Rolls Over In Bad Weather
Post by: uncle ned on March 05, 2012, 07:32:21 AM

I found out about wind yesterday.  coming up i77 from Columbia SC to Charlotte NC. was bad.

Was following a tractor and trailer and saw it move over several feet a bunch. Even "HUGGY" was having a bad time and i was glad i was not pulling the big box trailer.

uncle Ned
Title: Re: Picture - Eagle Rolls Over In Bad Weather
Post by: trucktramp on March 05, 2012, 07:48:22 AM
Back in my early days on the road.  I was on the side of I 80 just east of Toledo trying to re-secure a tarp on a coal bucket.  My running partner was a small guy and he was on top to the load getting bounced around like a rag doll.  We were sitting in his tractor when I was watching west bound traffic and watched the trailer on a guy's rig lift up, track into the hammer lane and eventually flop on the side all due to the wind.  It was quite an impressive testament to the power of the wind.  I started paying attention to my trailer tires when it was very windy and I was empty.