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Title: MC-9 hitch
Post by: Ednj on April 19, 2006, 06:16:08 PM
I'm going to start my hitch this weekend (after carlisle PA), I like GUMPY's and FRED HOBE's, so any comments?
I didnt do it yet but I think I'm going with Gumpys.
I have all the materials i just need to get out of the inside and do it. Of coarse I will not have a lazer cutter.
carlisle was a rain out for me.
Title: Re: MC-9 hitch
Post by: plyons on April 19, 2006, 06:38:07 PM
Hi Ed,

I'll post some pics of an MC9 trailer hitch installation I've been looking at.  I've been looking for a hitch for some time now.  I don't have the skills to do the work myself, so it's a bit difficult to get it done right by someone who understands the bus frame, etc..  I may also be able to post some plans as well. 

Are you going to be putting tongue weight on the hitch assembly?  Or, are you building it to pull more of a rolling weight?

Hitchless in Chicago,

Phil
Title: Re: MC-9 hitch
Post by: Ednj on April 19, 2006, 06:48:15 PM
Hi Phill ,
Thanks for asking I most likely will be pulling a toad 4 down.
But I want the option of pulling a trailer with 4 quads and a dirt bike, or a couple Harleys ,or a Harley and a toad.
So I will be making the hitch as heavy duty as possible.
Title: Re: MC-9 hitch
Post by: tekebird on April 19, 2006, 07:23:15 PM
maybe you'd like to sswing by and look at the custom coach installed hitch on my MC-*

tekebird@yahoo.com

mechanicsburg, PA
Title: Re: MC-9 hitch
Post by: NJT5047 on April 19, 2006, 07:39:18 PM
If the upload folder is working, here's an idea...this is quite suitable for a 4-down toad.  I wouldn't want to tow a heavy tongue weight on the hitch.  Simple to execute. 
The side arms rest against the frame, and are made from 1/4" material.  The hitch is a 10K pickup (Dodge) that I bought off ebay for $20 bucks.  This is on an MC9.
Whatever you build, don't get it hanging out the back or too low.  You'll tear it off on a low place. 
Best, JR
Title: Re: MC-9 hitch
Post by: plyons on April 19, 2006, 07:57:01 PM
Hi JR,

Thanks for posting - that pic of yours is what I was going to upload.   :)

I'm thinking of taking those pictures to the fabricator working on my bus now.  Seeing if they can follow your setup with my bus.

I'll keep you all posted on this.

Best Regards, Phil
Title: Re: MC-9 hitch
Post by: NJT5047 on April 19, 2006, 08:22:33 PM
Phil, your fabricator shouldn't have any problem making a much nicer looking unit than mine...I used what was avail.  They may offer improvements too.   Post the outcome so I can steal your ideas!  ;) 
Best, JR 
 
Title: Re: MC-9 hitch
Post by: grantgoold on April 19, 2006, 08:55:55 PM
Waiting to see what you come up with, I too want to take what you have and fabricator build me one.

Regards,

Grant
Title: Re: MC-9 hitch
Post by: gumpy on April 20, 2006, 04:50:35 AM
I may still have the posterboard patterns I made for the side pieces that are welded on the cradle on my MC9. If anyone is interested, I could see if I can find them and trace them on a piece of poster board for you. They were an exact fit. A friend had them digitized and cut with a laser cutter, but they skipped one notch which I had to grind out. Only thing I'd change on mine is that I'd make it a bit longer. I didn't get it far enough back to clear a bumper. I may have to modify the cross piece whenever I finally get a bumper installed.

craig
Title: Re: MC-9 hitch
Post by: ChuckMC8 on April 20, 2006, 04:54:04 AM
Phil ,
I had read on one the bus pages on the web (And I apologize to the author) I changed computers last year and unfortunately lost a lot of my bookmarks......
 But here's the gist-Someone else wil read this and post the correct web address for the original article.

On the bus mentioned in the article, the receiver socket on the bus hitch was moved to the left of center.
I already have a 2" receiver on my bus, but here what I'm a gonna do-
 My toad is a 1971 VW Beetle convertible. I plan to pull the car up behind the bus just like I'm am going to hook up the towbar, but instead, I'm going to put the drivers side of the car in line with the drivers side of the bus. That way, I can see the drivers side of the car in my mirror. It also helps with the right hand turn when towing.
    As I said, I already have a 2" receiver in the middle. I bought a 1- 1/4" receiver to add for my VW toad hitch.
 I hope I didn't butcher that too badly.......I think it's a great idea!
Chuck Lott
Title: Re: MC-9 hitch
Post by: gumpy on April 20, 2006, 05:12:10 AM
I've heard that, too. Never tried it. Never seen it done either, but after pulling the explorer over 30K miles, I'm
glad I didn't do it on mine. I can't see it being any better than having a camera, plus it exposes your toad to
more risk by putting it closer to the center line, and when you make a right hand turn, you won't be able to
see the toad at all. 

Advantages I see of not doing it are that you will be able to see it on both sides when you turn a corner,
and the camera is there for normal use. Also, the lights on both sides of the bus will be visible around the narrow toad.

I'm considering putting a camera in the lower rear corners of the bus so I can see the wheels on the toad.

Title: Re: MC-9 hitch
Post by: ChuckMC8 on April 20, 2006, 05:52:16 AM
Guess I should have submitted that in the "tips"page instead of this thread.......
Title: Re: MC-9 hitch
Post by: DrivingMissLazy on April 20, 2006, 05:59:35 AM
Yep Chuck. I am already using the one you already posted about posting. Thanks.
Richard


Quote from: ChuckMC8 on April 20, 2006, 05:52:16 AM
Guess I should have submitted that in the "tips"page instead of this thread.......
Title: Re: MC-9 hitch
Post by: grantgoold on April 20, 2006, 06:10:13 AM
Quote from: gumpy on April 20, 2006, 04:50:35 AM
I may still have the posterboard patterns I made for the side pieces that are welded on the cradle on my MC9. If anyone is interested, I could see if I can find them and trace them on a piece of poster board for you. They were an exact fit. A friend had them digitized and cut with a laser cutter, but they skipped one notch which I had to grind out. Only thing I'd change on mine is that I'd make it a bit longer. I didn't get it far enough back to clear a bumper. I may have to modify the cross piece whenever I finally get a bumper installed.

craig

I am interested in you design. Let me know how I can help out or what you need from me. Perhaps if the plans are digitized, the file could be sent to me and I could have it printed out on a large scale printer?

thanks

Grant
Title: Re: MC-9 hitch
Post by: gumpy on April 20, 2006, 08:32:38 AM
Quote from: grantgoold on April 20, 2006, 06:10:13 AM

I am interested in you design. Let me know how I can help out or what you need from me. Perhaps if the plans are digitized, the file could be sent to me and I could have it printed out on a large scale printer?



The patterns were digitized at the place that cut the plates, but unfortunately, I didn't get a copy, and don't have access the place any more.

I think all I have, (and I'll have to see if I can find them) would be the posterboard templates. I can trace them onto posterboard, roll them up, and ship in a tube, if you're interested.

Here's the link to the page... http://www.gumpydog.com/bus/MC9_WIP/Towing_Hitch/towing_hitch.htm

craig

Title: Re: MC-9 hitch
Post by: ghanson on April 20, 2006, 11:51:40 AM
I see ChuckMC8 suggested that you offset the towed.  That's the way I do mine, and if I were to do it again, I'd do it again.  I can see the car at all times going straight so it eliminates the need for a camera, and you do get a good look at it when you turn left. 

When you turn right, you've just seen it recently so you don't miss it, and it's so far to the inside of the turn that you don' t worry about it.  From experience, I strongly recommend an offset hitch.  Your mileage may vary.....g