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Title: Wanderlodge
Post by: Kubla on November 01, 2011, 06:36:47 PM
hi all

do I get kicked off the board if I buy a bluebird wanderlodge ;)
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Title: Re: Wanderlodge
Post by: robertglines1 on November 01, 2011, 07:01:28 PM
It as much as bus as mine.  Looks nice to me.   Bob
Title: Re: Wanderlodge
Post by: Kubla on November 01, 2011, 07:08:47 PM
Going to be a learning experience, generator runs great, makes no volts, only 1 of the 3 cruise airs works, but the all important ice-maker works ;D
Title: Re: Wanderlodge
Post by: luvrbus on November 01, 2011, 07:10:53 PM
I would have went for the PT model that FC model is a little rough riding and very noisy and you need a set of walkies talkies to talk to the co-pilot come to think of it the noise may be a good thing lol  


good luck
Title: Re: Wanderlodge
Post by: Barn Owl on November 01, 2011, 07:35:50 PM
I always wanted a Blue Bird but I could never afford one. Everything turned out OK though.
Title: Re: Wanderlodge
Post by: opus on November 01, 2011, 07:39:05 PM
They let me on here and I have an All-American!
Title: Re: Wanderlodge
Post by: Busted Knuckle on November 01, 2011, 07:41:19 PM
Yup jump on it the water is warm and we even allow schoolies! (@ least we did ................
don't know if the new management will allow it or not! LOL! ;D  )
;D  BK  ;D
Title: Re: Wanderlodge
Post by: Lin on November 01, 2011, 10:23:44 PM
I like the Wanderlodges, and believe them to be well made.  Although the FC may be noisier on the road, most of your time is probably spent parked anyway.  There are several specific Boards for them also that will be excellent resources.
Title: Re: Wanderlodge
Post by: oldmansax on November 02, 2011, 04:47:04 AM
I got one too.... although I still have my MCI..    ;D

You really should join the www.wanderlodgeownersgroup.com (http://www.wanderlodgeownersgroup.com)

There is a lot of wanderlodge specific information there.

TOM
Title: Re: Wanderlodge
Post by: Utahclaimjumper on November 02, 2011, 04:54:17 AM
The FC wanderinglodge is also short on storage space.>>>Dan
Title: Re: Wanderlodge
Post by: Bussman84 on November 02, 2011, 04:56:29 AM
I really like the wanderlodges also. Really cool buses I looked at one one the e-place a couple years ago really thought long and hard on that one. What model genny has it got? Someone on here probably has some good ideas or mabe at least a manual or something. (Surely someone hasn't just flipped the breakers on the genny off  ???) Good luck with it.

                Billy
Title: Re: Wanderlodge
Post by: bevans6 on November 02, 2011, 05:59:32 AM
Wanderlodge is what first got me interested in the whole bus idea.  I think they look cool, dated and funky with their distinctive paint scheme.  After learning a lot more I think I am happy with my MCI, but I do have a soft spot for the Wanderlodge.  I think of them every time I drive by the Bluebird factory outside Montreal.

Brian
Title: Re: Wanderlodge
Post by: luvrbus on November 02, 2011, 06:11:36 AM
What engine 3208 ? looks like someone took good care of it






Title: Re: Wanderlodge
Post by: Joe Camper on November 02, 2011, 06:39:13 AM
We were looking at them. You could land helicopters on the roofs of the ones I viewed they were so solid.

I love the dash boards, the layout and thoroughness of the instrumentation, many had waterbeds (could be good or bad but different for sure :-\) I liked the twin rearends and 8 rear tires on the bigger ones (although IMHO very unnecessary but much better looking). :-[

I love our U-line Ice maker too!!

Does your bus have the electronic odor control for the holding tank?

You have created a project for yourself with that purchase
Title: Re: Wanderlodge
Post by: rv_safetyman on November 02, 2011, 08:10:33 AM
Like others, my first exposure to a Bluebird coach whet my appetite for a motorhome built on a bus type chassis.  In our case, it was at a campground, at least 35 years ago.  This big beautiful Wanderlodge from Texas pulled into the campground with "the Yellow Rose of Texas" blaring from speakers in the front. 

In 2004, we did a Bluebird rally in Perry, GA.  There were hundreds of Bluebirds and I was like a kid in a candy store.  A huge number showed up early and were parked in the staging area.  I spent about a half of day talking to the owners of the "classic" units and they had done an amazing job of restoring them.  They were such an enthusiastic bunch. 

Later we toured the factory and saw the latest wis-bang model.  Based on a bit of research this morning, I think that the coach we saw on the line was the first 450 LXi being made.  It was very fancy and had all complexities of the leading coaches of the time.  By that time, the Wanderlodge had lost all of its "roots" and was just a super expensive clone of all the other coaches in that category. Here is link to a review of the 450 LXi:

http://www.fmcmagazine.com/back-issues/2005/december/6294-blue-bird-wanderlodge-450-lxi (http://www.fmcmagazine.com/back-issues/2005/december/6294-blue-bird-wanderlodge-450-lxi)

At the rally, the new management put on a rousing presentation that would have you believe that they were going to put the rest of the market out of business.  Instead, the stopped all production in 2009.

A few years ago, the owner of the Datastorm Users Group website (Don Bradner) hosted a users group meeting in Quartzsite.  The weather was terrible, so not many folks showed up.  Don held the meeting in his amazing 1990 Wanderlodge.  The features and quality just blew me away.  Here is his page describing that coach:

http://www.arcatapet.net/travel/wanderlodge.cfm (http://www.arcatapet.net/travel/wanderlodge.cfm)

Sorry for rambling, but the wonderful memories just started to flow this morning.  That and the fact that we have another huge snow storm :D

Jim
Title: Re: Wanderlodge
Post by: Joe Camper on November 02, 2011, 08:22:00 AM
Me too Jim.

Every time the topic come up  reminds me of a fellow who I met on the internet but never had the opportunity to meet in person.

It was obvius to me based on the content of his corrispondence on line he was a true enthusiast in every way. He had a Bluebird and moved into a Prevo. He frequented many discussion forums like this on the topic, lifesyle and hobbie.

Jim Scoggins. He has passed away now but I am bringing up his memory.

Here was a fellow who was very very very mechanicly inclined who was killed by being crushed under his coach.

Never be too careful. God Bless the family and loved ones he left behind.
Title: Re: Wanderlodge
Post by: rv_safetyman on November 02, 2011, 08:33:15 AM
One more quick story about the Bluebird rally. 

As I was walking around all the classic coaches, an older gentleman asked if I would like to see his FC.  He told me it was for sale.  Then he told me that he was 92 years old.  I assumed he was hanging it up.  Nope, he "wanted to own a PT (pusher) before he got to old to drive".  :D :D

Jim
Title: Re: Wanderlodge
Post by: CountingFireflies on November 02, 2011, 09:01:24 AM
Quote from: Kubla on November 01, 2011, 06:36:47 PM
hi all

do I get kicked off the board if I buy a bluebird wanderlodge ;)

I hope not, these are my dream rv.  I still regret not getting a wanderlodge.  They are a nearly perfect setup for serious camping and recreation.  I'm seriously jealous of the roof rack. 

Post some interior pics so I can drool some more.

Chris
Title: Re: Wanderlodge
Post by: Mex-Busnut on November 02, 2011, 09:21:49 AM
The Bluebirds, of course, gained their fame originally as one of the safest, best-built  skoolies on the road. I have seen many of their Wanderlodges over the years, and always admired their looks.

Congrats!
Title: Re: Wanderlodge
Post by: thejumpsuitman on November 02, 2011, 09:47:41 AM
We own a '74 Wanderlodge that we bought before we got the Eagle.  Strictly for camping, the Wanderlodge is much better because of the excellent ground clearance, shorter length and tight turning radius. 

They are absolutely built like a TANK!  Remember those Bluebirds had to meet all safety regulations for school buses first...  Ours is an FC31 gasser and Clifford is right, very noisy and rough riding going down the road. (You really can't sit at the dinette if it's over the rear axle without losing a couple fillings... lol)  But forward of the front wheels, the overhang softens the ride.  With the 391 Industrial Ford gas engine, ours can hardly get out of it's own way, but if you aren't in a hurry, who cares?  they are very cool looking and have a very retro/classic appearance and feel.  Wish we could keep both buses, but our Wanderlodge is for sale.

Marc
Title: Re: Wanderlodge
Post by: Kubla on November 02, 2011, 11:38:25 AM
in 1980 they went to air ride, I know about the noise, so I will do what I did when I drove trucks OTR, wear ear plugs, I would like a PT also but I am getting this one for 8K and it has only 70 k miles on it and was re-engined with a 3208 cat turbo diesel (replacing the 3208 NA) 20k miles ago, it has a few issues but is mechanically sound and the plumbing works
Title: Re: Wanderlodge
Post by: DW SD on November 02, 2011, 11:59:37 AM
Though not a fixture here, I have an '83 PT-35.  The thing is great.  Picked it up with rebuilt engine and trans for $23k and 140k miles on the chassis.  the previous owner dropped some coin to make everything just right mechanically. 

I was going to buy a bus and build one and didn't see how I could approach doing it as cheap if I built it myself.  I've since put all new floors, extensive maintenance, new 3000W inverter, some new tires, belts, filters, reconfigured the back bedroom (to a King bed), etc. etc.

I'm really pleased with the choice.  I'm into it about $33k and it is extremely reliable now.  Will have to do batteries and some more new tires and fix the third cruisair.  It leaks R-22.

good luck!

Doug
Title: Re: Wanderlodge
Post by: oldmansax on November 02, 2011, 01:47:09 PM
Picture on my '82 PT 40 right after I got it.

TOM
Title: Re: Wanderlodge
Post by: 84bluebird on November 02, 2011, 03:08:32 PM
If you have air ride by Ridewell and ensure the sound insulation in the doghouse is in good shape you will be very happy. I have an 84FC and can drive down the road and talk to my wife in a whisper as well as have a smooth ride!

John
Title: Re: Wanderlodge
Post by: Kubla on November 02, 2011, 03:26:58 PM
One of the projects that I have to do is re-insulate the Doghouse, the old deteriorating insulation has been removed but no new stuff put in, been on the wanderlodge owners group and found instructions on how and what to use, but that will be after I get it home, wearing earplugs
Title: Re: Wanderlodge
Post by: luvrbus on November 02, 2011, 03:36:27 PM
We looked at serial # 2010fc35 last year it was a good price real clean they were asking 25  it had a gutless 3208 250hp turbo Cat engine no storage space, I see why they have roof racks and you could not hear the radio at 35 mph the ride wasn't to bad but not great either after owning a Eagle lol I do like the PT models they are nice


good luck
Title: Re: Wanderlodge
Post by: luvrbus on November 02, 2011, 04:16:30 PM
I'll give you a short story on why BB went away as told to me by a`Vogue employee Peggy 

.Volvo owned both Prevost and Blue Bird and the Prevost converters where complaining about competition from BB so Volvo sold it off or gave it away as some say knowing it could not survive without the Volvo and their partners backing.

The owner of Vogue Mitchel was opposed he had a soft spot for Blue Bird and still does he sold 40% of the Blue Birds ever sold in the US

good luck
Title: Re: Wanderlodge
Post by: Dave Siegel on November 04, 2011, 03:09:00 AM
Hi Kubla,
Welcome to the board. That is a very nice looking coach you have, and you will find lots of great advice here. The wealth of information here is amazing and the members offer the information freely, just be descriptive and include pics if you can, someone here is bound to know lots of what you are asking about.

Dave Siegel
Title: Re: Wanderlodge
Post by: Kubla on November 04, 2011, 06:29:18 PM
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some more pictures, has chairs on right instead of second couch
Title: Re: Wanderlodge
Post by: gus on November 04, 2011, 09:06:15 PM
The 3208 is a fair engine at best. It needs new rod and crank bearings every 75,000 mi and it will last a long time.

It stinks and smokes at start up in cool/cold weather but runs like scat and is good coupled to an Allison trans.

It is smooth but noisy.

It has a nice hand fuel primer on the engine.
Title: Re: Wanderlodge
Post by: Kubla on November 05, 2011, 05:48:13 PM
tomorrow I leave to get it and drive it home, I hope it is an Uneventful trip ;D
Title: Re: Wanderlodge
Post by: robertglines1 on November 05, 2011, 05:57:01 PM
Where at?  coming near Evansville?    Bob
Title: Re: Wanderlodge
Post by: Kubla on November 05, 2011, 06:30:09 PM
I live in Cincinnati, ohio and it is south of atlanta GA, so straight down I 75 to south of atlanta before I turn off
Title: Re: Wanderlodge
Post by: robertglines1 on November 05, 2011, 06:31:55 PM
Have fun.   Should be nice weather.
Title: Re: Wanderlodge
Post by: Kubla on November 08, 2011, 05:32:19 PM
the Wanderlodge and I made it home, ran great, now the fun stuff begins