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Title: number of windows MC8
Post by: rcbeam on August 02, 2011, 02:31:04 PM
I decided to break up my posts into two posts because they are sort of about two different parts.  Once finished with stripping out the inside I will skin the bus and I plan to install RV slider/screen windows in appropriate places.  I like to see out and don't want to feel like I'm too cooped up in a tin can (probably sounds silly), but I can't decide on how many windows.  I also want any passengers to be able to see out as we travel.  My concern is mostly with heat/gain in the summer.  I plan on spray foaming the inside but more windows make more solar heat/gain.

My plan is two in the bedroom (one each side), one small one in the bath, one small one over the kitchen sink, one large one by the dinette on the curb side and two in the living room (one on each side) where the front window now is.  What I cannot decide on is I also would like one more on the curb side between the front window and the dinette window.  Is this last one too much?  Is it really going to make any difference? 

In opinions?

Title: Re: number of windows MC8
Post by: Jriddle on August 02, 2011, 03:38:47 PM
This what I did. I set my back windows too far back. I will have trouble with window covering and my back cabinet.

John
Title: Re: number of windows MC8
Post by: Ralph7 on August 02, 2011, 03:46:18 PM
   I have 2 ea 22X48 on curb side an 1ea 22X48  on left, the D windows are still in place. Fronts are close to the front.   In the bed room 1 on each side 22X30.  
  My late wife and I made heavy weight curtains and they make a big difference, in both heat and cooling.
  Our  bath is to small for window and in kitchen I need space to hang things.
  I centered the bedroom windows.
Title: Re: number of windows MC8
Post by: rcbeam on August 02, 2011, 04:45:22 PM
John, thx for the pictures.  I see what you mean about the bedroom window.  My plan was to place mine on the front edge of where the bus window now is, which hopefully will center over the bed, since I am thinking about putting the bed sideways.  I was also wondering about having all the windows on the same line with each other... not sure if it looks odd to have them not in-line or not.

Ralph, the windows you mention seem to be a nice large size.  Guess they haven't been any problem for you.

thx, so far,

Title: Re: number of windows MC8
Post by: robertglines1 on August 02, 2011, 04:52:07 PM
Ck  out e-bay motors under coach parts  newley listed  lots of window sizes  to think about.  I like a full view behind sofa and across from it. Just one in bedroom for privacy and a little air. Make sure to have one for your co pilot to guaze out and you to glance out.  Just some suggestions.  Do it your way!  Bob
Title: Re: number of windows MC8
Post by: lostagain on August 02, 2011, 05:11:27 PM
IMO, you don't need one in the bathroom or the kitchen. Are you going to sit in there all day looking out the window?

Staying cool in summer, warm in winter is more important.

2 large ones on pass side and one on driver's side is enough. 2 small ones in bedroom, one on each side for cross breeze.

JC
Title: Re: number of windows MC8
Post by: rcbeam on August 02, 2011, 05:30:09 PM
JC... my reasoning for one in the bath is to ventilate after a shower or how do I say this politely?... in case there is a bad smell  you want to get rid of... I also plan on a vent fan in the ceiling of the bath to remove said odors and/or steamy air, and  in the kitchen I want to see out and maybe open a window in spring or fall when doing dishes.  I could do without the one over the kitchen sink I suppose but just hate looking at the wall.

I just hate to get this wrong.... not something that I care to do over.  Too many windows, or not enought... jeez o pete.

Maybe having the windows will be ok if I can do something creative with blinds or curtains to curtail the heat load during the hot part of the day?
Title: Re: number of windows MC8
Post by: rcbeam on August 02, 2011, 05:31:06 PM
Bob... good tip. I'll give ebay-motors a look see.
Title: Re: number of windows MC8
Post by: Jriddle on August 02, 2011, 06:40:29 PM
I post two of the same picture I screwed up but posted the right one now.

John
Title: Re: number of windows MC8
Post by: buswarrior on August 02, 2011, 07:10:34 PM
If you are doing all that insulating, and installing good windows, there's not going to be much difference whether you install 5 or 7 of them.

Absolutely keep the "D" windows, there's all manner of driving situations that they will be critical for seeing out.

Just to keep it in perspective, my stock coach, all the stock double pane windows in place and whatever insulation MCI put in the ceiling and walls can stay at 70 degrees out in the sun with an ambient of 98 degrees with two old mid-80's roof airs by the Dometic folks...

happy coaching!
buswarrior

Title: Re: number of windows MC8
Post by: TomC on August 02, 2011, 09:51:38 PM
If you look at the picture of my bus-there is no such thing as too big a window or too many windows.  Our bus has such big windows that everyone that comes in the bus is amazed at how open feeling it is-so much so they don't miss us not having slide outs.  When in doubt-keep the window.  Use double pane, and you'll enjoy both the drive and camping much more.  It is a mystery why some leave such few windows giving that military tank feeling.  Aren't we out here to see the country side? Good Luck, TomC (Amen! - Tom's wife)
Title: Re: number of windows MC8
Post by: scanzel on August 03, 2011, 03:34:07 AM
Great response Tom C, why take out all the windows and then spend money to buy new and smaller ones. When we go with my wife's cousin in there S&S you can only see out the windshield for a view. On our Prevost we are keeping all but 3 or 4 windows on the drivers side because of the bathroom and kitchen. The passenger side will retain all windows for a great view while traveling and parked. Our bathroom is a side isle so one window will stay in the bathroom for light. It will have a frosted covering on the inside to prevent seeing in. The rest of the windows will stay. A challenge for covering at night but we love the views while traveling. We are doing it our way.
Title: Re: number of windows MC8
Post by: rcbeam on August 03, 2011, 05:04:26 PM
Thx to everyone that answered my post on the windows.  This is part of what makes this forum and group of people so great.  Reading your replies and seeing a few pictures has given me lots to think about. 
Title: Re: number of windows MC8
Post by: bottomacher on August 04, 2011, 05:27:32 AM
My Fanatastic fan is in the bath ceiling; with the bath door partially open and the windows opened just a bit, it ventilates the entire bus. Kitchen window is much smaller than the rest, allowing sink and overhead cabinets and a view while doing dishes,  as well as conversation when cooking outside and inside as well. Range hood is vented. I have 7 Peninsula windows besides the kitchen; insulation, cross ventilation and view are very satisfactory.
Title: Re: number of windows MC8
Post by: rcbeam on August 04, 2011, 04:49:31 PM
bottomacher;  Sounds like you and I are on the same frequency regarding our thoughts on windows.  I appreciate you input about the fantastic fan.  I was going to use two, but sounds like one in the bath would be plenty.  One less hole in the roof and less money to spend.

Title: Re: number of windows MC8
Post by: Bill B /bus on August 06, 2011, 03:27:11 PM
Agree with Tom C as in more windows are better. Well, within reason. We kept three windows on the passenger side, two windows on the drivers side. Moved the aft most windows. bedroom, forward by half the window length. Should have moved an additional 8-10" forward to better center on the side mounted bed. No windows in bath or kitchen. We installed three Fantastic Fans. living room aft of AC,  kitchen, and bathroom.  Bathroom fan is more than sufficient to remove odors with a window cracked someplace.
Use the dual pane, tinted windows. I know $'s but worth the money. Window awnings help in the heat.
When and if you can get the sliders windows for the driver and door windows.  With a bedroom window open about 8" and the those two windows opened there is a great breeze across the driver and passenger. That means no gen time for the AC up to 95F+.

Bill