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Title: just a tip
Post by: Busted Knuckle on July 21, 2011, 07:24:10 AM
Hey guys any of you that are near a Rural King may like knowing about this.
Yesterday's ad came out and has a big ad on the front that says bring in your "green" Rural King bag (or grab one for free as you come in the store and create your own "bag sale" 10% off anything you can fit in the bag. They allow items to stick up twice as tall as the bag as long as it fits in the bag.

And on another note those of you that can run 15/40 oil, they have the *Delvac 1300 Super on sale for $10.99.
Dad was able to "stack" 4 gallons in a bag and got them for $9.89 a gallon.
It only says 1 bag per visit. I'm headed there here in a few mins on my way to run errands and then again after finishing the errands. By the time I get home today I'll have saved $13.88 on an oil change + 2 spare gallons on the shelf.

They also have the 12 oz cans of freon on sale for $6.99 a can with a limit of 4 cases! (I buy mine in 30# cylinders, but some of you don't need that much and the cans are perfect for recharging car systems.
Just thought I'd pass the savings on.
;D  BK  ;D
Title: Re: just a tip
Post by: chev49 on July 22, 2011, 04:43:49 AM
I'll give you $6.99  a can for R-12 ;D
Title: Re: just a tip
Post by: babell2 on July 22, 2011, 05:37:49 AM
Last tme I found a 30# can of R-12 it was $1,000.00 now 134A  just shy of $200.00.  Freeze 12 ~$20.00 for a 12 oz can.

Brice
Title: Re: just a tip
Post by: belfert on July 22, 2011, 06:11:20 AM
Isn't production of R12 supposed to have ceased a number of years ago?  I remember talking to an auto service place around 2000.  They sometimes had cars abandoned at their place due to not being economical to repair.  They would pull any R12 out of them to use for repairing other vehicles since they couldn't buy it.
Title: Re: just a tip
Post by: Busted Knuckle on July 22, 2011, 08:29:57 AM
R-12 is still available, if ya look hard enough.  But it's VERY very pricey when ya find it.

If you read my post I said nothing about R12. I said 12 OZ CANS of freon.
;D  BK  ;D
Title: Re: just a tip
Post by: chev49 on July 22, 2011, 08:32:22 AM
i bought a case of it at a car swap meet in june for $10 a can... thats why i said i would gladly pay $6.99 a can for it... ;D
Title: Re: just a tip
Post by: babell2 on July 22, 2011, 09:26:33 AM
Quote from: Busted Knuckle on July 22, 2011, 08:29:57 AM
R-12 is still available, if ya look hard enough.  But it's VERY very pricey when ya find it.

If you read my post I said nothing about R12. I said 12 OZ CANS of freon.
;D  BK  ;D

BK
"Freon" being the DuPont trade name for R-12 all other cans of refrigerant are labled 134A, R-22, R410, Puron etc.

Brice
Title: Re: just a tip
Post by: Busted Knuckle on July 22, 2011, 10:22:44 AM
Quote from: babell2 on July 22, 2011, 09:26:33 AM
BK
"Freon" being the DuPont trade name for R-12 all other cans of refrigerant are labled 134A, R-22, R410, Puron etc.

Brice

Brice,
I learn somthin new evry day. I did not know that Freon was a registered name for R-12 only.
I'm a self taught country boy mechanic and it's all always been "freon" to me.  And most likely will still be my general reference to any refrigerant til I die.
;D  BK  ;D
Title: Re: just a tip
Post by: babell2 on July 22, 2011, 12:11:13 PM
BK
  You'r not alone 9 out of 10 people that come in wanting R134A for their cars still ask for Freon.

Brice
Title: Re: just a tip
Post by: demodriver on July 22, 2011, 04:06:55 PM
I just got back from stuffing some buckets of hydro fluid in bags. Two buckets for $50 ;D  I will probably go back for motor oil tomorrow.
Title: Re: just a tip
Post by: muldoonman on July 22, 2011, 06:49:52 PM
Just  bought 60 lbs. of freeze 12 for $265 a bottle. Started to charge my old coach up and find hose leaking right off the bat.

Glen
Title: Re: just a tip
Post by: oldmansax on July 23, 2011, 04:50:38 AM
Quote from: muldoonman on July 22, 2011, 06:49:52 PM
Just  bought 60 lbs. of freeze 12 for $265 a bottle. Started to charge my old coach up and find hose leaking right off the bat.

Glen

If you can, it is much cheaper to charge your system with nitrogen to leak check than refrigerant. Dry nitrogen will also absorb some of the moisture that has migrated into the system from the leak. You still need to evacuate the system before recharging.

TOM
Title: Re: just a tip
Post by: Busted Knuckle on July 23, 2011, 07:35:33 AM
Quote from: muldoonman
Just  bought 60 lbs. of freeze 12 for $265 a bottle. Started to charge my old coach up and find hose leaking right off the bat.
Glen

Quote from: oldmansax
If you can, it is much cheaper to charge your system with nitrogen to leak check than refrigerant. Dry nitrogen will also absorb some of the moisture that has migrated into the system from the leak. You still need to evacuate the system before recharging.

TOM

Yup Tom it was my suggestion earlier on his thread about charging a/c too. (reply #36) 
Quote from: BK
36     Bus Discussion / All Topics ( click here for quick start! ) / Re: r12 to 134 conversion    on: July 11, 2011, 07:19:29 PM
Glen,
If it were me the first thing I would do is draw a vacuum on the system and watch it for 1/2 day and see if it holds. This will give you an idea of how the seals & hoses are holding up.
If it holds a decent vacuum for 3-4 hrs then I'd charge.
If not then charge it with an inert gas (I forget the most common used for this as I haven't had to do it for 6-7 yrs), then with it charged with the inert gas it should be easy to go around using a "leak detector" sniffing for leaks.

Once the leaks are found & repaired redraw the vacuum and recharge it with the freeze 12.

That is just the way I'd do it. But keep in mind I'm just a self taught hillbilly cheapskate and prefer to do things once and get it done right the first time and not spend big $ paying to have it done and then having to keep returning it because the person that did it the first time was learning too!
Grin  BK  Grin

;D  BK  ;D