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Title: Air or Cable
Post by: walter85eagle on September 28, 2006, 06:05:21 PM
I have a 85 Eagle 10 with a broken throttle cable,should I replace cable.Or install air throttle. ???
Title: Re: Air or Cable
Post by: Nick Badame Refrig/ACC on September 28, 2006, 06:14:48 PM
Hello walter85eagle,

Welcome to the MAK BBS.

Allthough I don't know the answer to your question, I'm sure our members will steer you in the right direction!

Thanks for Joining!

Nick Badame
Title: Re: Air or Cable
Post by: DrivingMissLazy on September 28, 2006, 06:40:42 PM
When I had the same problem with my 80 Eagle I replaced with the air throttle and loved it. If you have manual tranny I would stick with cable.
Richard


Quote from: walter85eagle on September 28, 2006, 06:05:21 PM
I have a 85 Eagle 10 with a broken throttle cable,should I replace cable.Or install air throttle. ???
Title: Re: Air or Cable
Post by: TomC on September 28, 2006, 10:40:40 PM
Go with air for sure. The pedal pressure is nice and light, but does have some lag to it.  You can get used to it if you have a manual.  If you have an automatic, the air throttle is easy to use with an air powered throttle position solenoid mounted on the transmission.  Good Luck, TomC
Title: Re: Air or Cable
Post by: Barn Owl on September 28, 2006, 11:03:31 PM
I have an air throttle on my 4106. It's smooth, effortless and works very well. The only drawback is that it doesn't work until the air is up. I have an automatic transmission, FWIW.
Title: Re: Air or Cable
Post by: DrivingMissLazy on September 29, 2006, 06:38:13 AM
Barn Owl is absolutely correct regarding the requirement for air pressure. Fortunately my King (?) cruise control had a fast idle feature that permitted running the engine at an adjustable fast idle during warm up when no air pressure was immediately available. It automatically disconnected when the tranny was put in drive.
Richard


Quote from: Barn Owl on September 28, 2006, 11:03:31 PM
I have an air throttle on my 4106. It's smooth, effortless and works very well. The only drawback is that it doesn't work until the air is up. I have an automatic transmission, FWIW.
Title: Re: Air or Cable
Post by: Runcutter on September 29, 2006, 03:44:18 PM
Walter, don't know if this helps at all.  Company I was with, all GM, bought a pair of 4905's the first year the air throttle came out - early/mid 1970's.  Previous coaches all had cable throttles.  Thirty or so years later, I still remember the fleet numbers- Trombly Motor Coach 252 & 254.  Why?  Because I never could successfully shift the darned things.  RPM's dropped so fast, I blew more shifts than I made.

All the more embarrassing because I was not only a driver, but a dispatcher _and the instructor_.  Guess which buses I never used for instructing, and would only drive when there was no other option.  Some other folks did ok with them, so it may have been me.

Subsequent years' purchases, with later air throttles, were ok for shifting, though.  I know, these were GM's, and older than your Eagle, but I did want to share my experience that there was some variation in driving characteristics with same model, engine, transmission.  Important to note, these were all sticks, I don't have any experience with automatics in coaches.

Arthur Gaudet  Carrollton, TX
Title: Re: Air or Cable
Post by: HighTechRedneck on September 29, 2006, 08:07:54 PM
I love the air throttle in my bus.  After driving my bus with it, I found myself wishing my pickup had one.