I am trying to sell my F3500 MCI for about half it's worth and I've never seen it so slow. I have sold 10 previous buses I owned but times have never been like this before. Sheee
Slow times?. Tell ME about it. I am in construction. In the past 60 days made exactly $600.
Quote from: pipopak on June 08, 2011, 08:45:43 PM
Slow times?. Tell ME about it. I am in construction. In the past 60 days made exactly $600.
Might be worth a temporary move to Joplin, MO or NC. Lots of folk are gonna need help rebuilding after the tornadoes.
FWIW & HTH. . .
;)
Is yours a personal or professional conversion?
My bus was org. pro converted but when I bought I up dated and made changes, I have had it for sale for well over a year, keep dropping the price way less then half what I have into it and nothing for the work. I still have it. I was thinking that I could take it to the woods, It would make a nice hunting cabin, just kidding there.
This is the reason a 45 ft CC Prevost 1996 model 123,000 miles extra clean sold for 95,000 I offered 90 three years ago this one would have sold for around 300,000 fwiw he had a balance of 102,000 he took the hit just to unload the bus because he felt if he didn't sell now the loose would be greater as time passed. you never know I would have kept it instead of digging into my pocket but like he told he could have but difference was the same as 3 more payments he had to make lol
good luck
mabey the good Lord intends that you keep it . I think that some where you have to draw a line. We went thru this a few years ago and just refused to give it away. We still have our home away from home. Unless I crank and move it . it cost nothing to keep it.
My coach was a pro built Limo coach that was over 300K new. I made some changes and added some things. I bought to use in business and it's not cost effective to drive 30,000 miles a year with high fuel cost. It is for the RV user being better than motels and condos. www.bus.s5.com (http://www.bus.s5.com) some one will get a steal when the buyer comes along.
I'm going to put my old 4104 on the market in the fall when I have the time to do it.
I'm not counting on the good lord to help me much considering the state of the bus market right now!! I doubt he gets much involved in the sale of old bus conversions!
If inflation goes up, everyone says everything is so expensive, money dont go around like it used to, everyones wants a raise. If the dollar goes up, everything gets cheap, but no one can afford the high wages and no one wants a pay cut so jobs are lost. Then nobody has any money to buy stuff even when its dirt cheap. Couldnt sell it when it was $400K cuz it was a "buyers market". Now nobody can afford it even at 1/10 the cost. Vicious circle. The clowns we elect keep thinking running off more and more money is going to fix it. Sorta like filling a fuel tank while someones punching holes through with a machine gun. No matter how much faster you pump, it just keeps going out faster. Until the bottom falls out.
This time around is likely different, though. I just dont see it ever turning around to like it was. Not like it was 4 years ago, or two years ago, but like yesterday. Id keep whatever you have as long as you have it. You never know when your going to need it.
It not only that Paul you have all the Prevost that were converted in the 80's and 90's on the market anyway you look at those are 20 and 30 year old buses bought when fuel was under a buck a gal the market will get worse before long there will be no demand for a converted bus done by the owner
good luck
Could you reword this so that it is a bit clearer...... :o
Quote from: artvonne on June 12, 2011, 08:13:18 PM
If inflation goes up, everyone says everything is so expensive, money dont go around like it used to, everyones wants a raise. If the dollar goes up, everything gets cheap, but no one can afford the high wages and no one wants a pay cut so jobs are lost. Then nobody has any money to buy stuff even when its dirt cheap. Couldnt sell it when it was $400K cuz it was a "buyers market". Now nobody can afford it even at 1/10 the cost. Vicious circle. The clowns we elect keep thinking running off more and more money is going to fix it. Sorta like filling a fuel tank while someones punching holes through with a machine gun. No matter how much faster you pump, it just keeps going out faster. Until the bottom falls out.
This time around is likely different, though. I just dont see it ever turning around to like it was. Not like it was 4 years ago, or two years ago, but like yesterday. Id keep whatever you have as long as you have it. You never know when your going to need it.
Quote from: eagle19952 on June 12, 2011, 08:38:04 PM
Could you reword this so that it is a bit clearer...... :o
That even with fire sale prices today, there are no buyers. First they stopped buying because housing cooled. Then eveyone was waiting for the "bottom". Now everyone is just waiting around for Armageddon to begin.
which remends me that the converted 64 eagle in brookings, ore sold for scrap value PO told me last week.
Quote from: eagle19952 on June 12, 2011, 08:38:04 PM
Could you reword this so that it is a bit clearer...... :o
I believe I could get it down to two words. >:(
Quote from: TedsBUSted on June 13, 2011, 07:38:07 AM
Quote from: eagle19952 on June 12, 2011, 08:38:04 PM
Could you reword this so that it is a bit clearer...... :o
I believe I could get it down to two words. >:(
Now that is the funniest reply all day ;D
As we are currently shopping for a bus, we have been out across the country talking with folks trying to sell in this market these past couple months - and it is sad to see so many beloved buses that have lost so much monetary value. And there are so many buses on the market.
We are having to be extra conscious consumers. There is such a wide range of quality and condition of buses on the market, and it takes a lot of effort to seek out the ones that are suitable for our novice bus selves who don't have the facilities to take on a bus with major projects left to complete (we're full time travelers, and our bus will be our full time home on wheels). We also have to be sure we are setting aside enough funds to properly maintain and care for whatever bus becomes our next nomadic home.
When we find the *right* bus for us, we know that the situation will feel like a win for everyone involved. As we hate the negotiating process and don't want to be making low ball offers, we are only expending the costs, efforts and logistics to go visit buses where the owners seems to be pricing with the current market in mind already. As we do have to keep in mind that if owning a bus doesn't pan out for us after a year or two, we'll need some reasonable hope of being able to sell without taking a huge loss.
Anyway.. just wanted to lend some hope that there are indeed bus buyers out there currently seeking.
- Cherie (and Chris)
Seeking a 35' bus to geek out for two technomads and a cat
If you want, I'd be willing to drive your bus around this year to some of the events I attend...races, country concert, jimmy buffet concerts, etc. I'd have a for sale sign in it at all times, and I'm a hellofa salesman...I could get her sold for you. Heading to MIS this weekend...I'd love to show it off and sell it for you :) No charge to you of course.
sincerely,
Greg
Like Technomadia said. There are those of us that are looking. I thought that I would never sell my motorcycle but Finley I did. The one who bought it said he had been trying to get the money for a long time. So keep up the hope there might be someone that is working real hard to get the money. They just haven't got a hold of you yet. Good luck
Kevin
Thanks for all the replies...I know it will sell I am probably being a little impatience. I have owned 10 buses in the past and have actually made money on most or broke even. My last MCI C-3 I drove 41/2 years and made a few thousand in the bad economy 2 years ago. When these F3500 started dropping in price early last year I missed 3 deals in the 70s and 80s that people were grabbing..Somebody is going to steal this one without going to jail.. I sold my house last fall and been full timing in this one since Nov. There are some tremendous foreclosure house deals here in GA and I am going to take the offer that will pay cash for the house and not consider any loss because of what I will be gaining in the house. It has took 6-12 months to sell each bus, so the buyer will show up in the right timing. There is a higher power that makes things happen.........