I was going through a s+s at a show and saw one with a rear bath,Liked the idea, So did wife (probably only thing we have ever agreed on). It would work out for our plans much better than a mid bath. Though I could put sink and comode on one side and shower on other, with a large access hatch in the middle. Don't have it completely gutted yet but can't seem to find a reason this won't work, I know it will make pluming drains and things harder, ( I never seem to do things the easy way anyway) Have just never seen this in a conversion before. Is there something I'm missing? Then I could put fresh water tank under bed and not cover access to engine and trans. Fire away if I'm even dumber than I look. This is in a 79 MC9
Getting the drains across the rear axle to the holding tank bay seems difficult. Are you going to walk through the bedroom to get to the bath?
Yes we thought we would put a 1/2 bath in front of bedroom. We will have no bunks so I would have the space.
Must not be a major problem I see Marathon's Prevost conversion with rear baths check their web site out sure they have a floor plan for the rear bath fwiw we have a rear bath in our S&S job and I love it
I think one of the reasons most go with a mid bath is the plumbing issue. A standard RV toilet works best if it is either directly over the black tank or close enough for a fairly steep run, mainly because of the minimal water used to flush them.
This can definitely be overcome with a macerator toilet or an air flush one. If your budget supports them.
Why not install the tanks in the old ac compartment if you don't have the factory air I have seen that before on Eagles and MCIs with rear baths with fresh water above the waste tanks in it own little compartment lol
good luck
any pictures of the rear bath you saw ? john
I have a bath and a half now. A rear bath then a bed room -then a butt hut with a small sink. The bedroom has 2 slides. Only thing is I raised my floor 3 inches in the rear area to allow for the dual slide mechanical and plumbing needs.Bob Ps I maintained gravity flow.
I think it works best with twin beds. If that is your preference the rear bath might be preferable.
The macerater gives you many options. That design adds a level of complexity to a system that most want very much to keep SIMPLE and stand alone, however. Hard area to get folks to go into to effect repairs be it the owner or repairman. Gravity feed needs no aux power and a bucket of water will do the flush with a straight drop.
HTH,
John
If you want to minimize water useage & keep things simple . . . . you can.
All you would have to do is to have a small black tank under the toilet & have a standard dump valve in the pipe from it going to the main black tank.
Size the aux black tank to fit the space available.
If it is so small you have to dump it more often than the main tank, just locate it's dump valve where it is easy to get to in the throne room. If it is big enough that you can just dump it when you are servicing the main tanks, put it's dump valve where you can access it when servicing the other tanks.
Problem with a rear bath-if you have any guests, they have to go through your bedroom to get to it. I also don't like rear baths, since it makes the bus seem shorter. Keep with either an enclosed bathroom (which I like) or a walk through mid mounted to make plumbing the easiest. Good Luck, TomC
What Tom said.
The center isle is more space efficient as the isle is part of the bathroom and one entire wall can be devoted to storage. Privacy is easy to achieve with doors at both ends. The bath becomes a wardrobe and dressing room. I think Prevost has the best general arrangement with the closets across the rear wall, the bed crosswise and a full walk thru bath. Pencil out the floor space requirements for the Pre layout and add up all the closet and drawer space of the alternatives for a better decision. The openness of that design also greatly appeals to me.
My 2 cents,
John
Rear baths are the in thing now with your high end converters like Marathon,Foretravel and Newell mirrors on the back wall they look larger.
I have owned RV's with walk through, side aisle and rear bathrooms I have to say the walk through was my least favorite I never could get to the bedroom
good luck
I do not think the toilet plumbing is a real issue as the second schoolie i made years ago had a elbow under the toilet, and of course i had installed a sprayer which cleaned it out on the rare occasion of a plug up. All my other conversions have been bath on the side, somewhere in the middle, but the one that i am going to do next, i think i will put a rear bath, with removable storage totally rear in center, now that there is only two of us and i dont need 117 feet of length for kids....(then the bed will be a few steps closer to the dining table when the boss makes bfst...) ;D
A rear bath can be great but it seems that these new conversions are doing it on a 45 foot shell so you have the extra space to play with. Doing it on a 35' or 40' and you do get shorter. On ours we are doing a side isle full bathroom. This way the bathroom and bedroom can be used at the same time. When we stay with my wife's cousin and we get up in the morning and need the toilet she is in there hogging the center isle area and we then need to get out and go to the camp ground restrooms. When it's cold this is a real pain. Any way is good but once it's done you have to live with it. ;D ;D
A separate toilet area when you add ladies to the mix (more than one at a time) is desireable. Maybe a makeup table as part of the bedroom area?
If you want to install a rear bath without a macerator toilet you are looking for trouble. The run to the tanks in the rear bay where they normally should be, even if pitched more than usuall, will not always overcome a spot where the front of the bus is higher than the rear.
We have a rear bathroom I love it.
Macerators are very cool the discharge is on the side from there it goes back and up on a 45 degree, on top of the OTR A/C duct at the bottom of the wall and runs forward to the rear bay in front of the drives. Couldn't be easier to plum them you do not go thru the floor till you are directly over the tank. Find a spot and bolt it to the floor.
We also enjoy the knowledge that we never have any solids in the tank EVER.
I have a grandson that is capable of plugging a gravity dump right over the tank type toilet, if we had one of these in the rear we would be in trouble. :o
Quote from: robertglines1 on May 24, 2011, 04:00:36 AM
A separate toilet area when you add ladies to the mix (more than one at a time) is desireable. Maybe a makeup table as part of the bedroom area?
Personally, when traveling especially, I would prefere a desk to a makeup table. But whatever you guys do for your ladies, please make sure they have LOTS of good natural colored lighting where they do make up.
The plan would be to put in a half bath for quests, That way they stay more forward in the bus. It is just the wife and I,and she won't allow me to have any guests in the bedroom . The thought is with the rear bath I can have better access to the engine area, and with the bed farther forward the ride is better if sleeping while moving and less noise.