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Thought I would share this. I took the pic with my phone and had to crop it, so it's not the best. When I first saw it, it reminded me of Rusty's trailer. This is one nice lookin' rig! 8) A stacker with duals and a steer axle in the front. Smart set up to keep the tongue weight down. I wonder who makes it?

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If you look on eBay's completed items under prevost you will see it. It did not sell for $525,000. Sure is nice

Oh yea! That's the ticket! Im seriously wanting a wagon instead of a trailor because of the tongue weight issue. Mike Sullivan and I had a long talk about this once and he suggested maybe mating a trailor to a dolly or cutting down a suburban or other truck frame vehicle to build one. Ive seen around farms and on the back of some big rigs where they pull wagons..... seems smart to me

LOL it's not a wagon it is a truck blocking the trailor. ;D

It looks like a rig that I saw headed south on my way north from Evansville the other day.  Very nice set up.

check again eddie  ;)

Quote from: eddiepotts on May 19, 2011, 07:24:59 PM
LOL it's not a wagon it is a truck blocking the trailor. ;D

It is a 'wagon' trailer, if that describes a trailer similar to in principle to old horse-drawn wagons. I think the technical term is a drawbar trailer. We've talked about them on here before - it's seems such an obvious solution to the tongue-weight issue that it's amazing they aren't far more common. Difficulty reversing is the usual argument against them, but I don't really buy that myself

Jeremy

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I've backed up hay wagons many times in my earlier years, and it is just a matter of getting used to how it is done. It was always easier with a tractor then a truck because you can see better. With a bus a good backup camera would make it easier.

Didn't Greyhound use a similar trailers behind passenger buses to transport freight/packages?


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I have a bit of information on Wayne's (rusty) trailer including the contact here:

http://www.rvsafetysystems.com/Trailer%20Towing.htm (http://www.rvsafetysystems.com/Trailer%20Towing.htm)

I recently took a fellow up to Wayne's do take a look at his trailer.  The fellow is looking at two that are for sale on the west coast.  The two are each in the $40-50K range.

Wayne's trailer came standard with an electric motor hydraulic cylinder that rotates the front axle so that the caster is correct when backing up.

Really neat design.

Jim

As Jim said this trailer has a hydraulic cylinder that when I but the bus in reverse it rotates the front axle that puts negative caster in the axle. I have put this trailer in some very tight spots. It is hard to see but the picture shows the cylinder.
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Very nice set up!^^^ ;D

Who and where is the manufacturer?

Joe, Competitive Trailers in CA very pricey without the paint and siding I have another friend besides Wayne that has one of those very nice only 2 I ever saw both behind Eagles LOL.
No idea what Wayne paid for his but the one Cole has he paid enough to buy a very nice late model bus conversion

good luck

Okay, who is gonna start hacking these together and selling them at a reasonable price to us nuts?

Joe, I have the contact details on the link I listed.  This is the information I list:

QuoteCompetitive Trailers (no web site   phone:  562-634-2006)

Teresa, on that same link, I show how the European commercial trailers are built.  I still think that some version of that system would work for our buses.

Of course, the Trailer Toad (shown in the linked page) is a pretty good option as well.

Jim

And what about legal length limits?.

^^^ I was told that in IN that I could not tow a two car trailer behind my bus due to the over all length laws.  So I am looking at building a "stacker" for my cars.

Unless your pulling in California nobody is going to mess with you

Quote from: Joe Camper on May 21, 2011, 04:15:39 AM
Unless your pulling in California nobody is going to mess with you

That is a strong statement, and certainly something you won't catch me saying.

However, it wouldn't surprise me if you will be fine at most lengths. But, I can see it coming back and biting you BIG TIME, if you have a wreck. Not only might you get cited, but watch out for those sue happy lawyers.

Minnesota has been known to ticket overlength motorhome/trailer combinations.  The limit was 65 feet until it was increased to 75 feet a few years ago.

Most all scale houses at a Port of Entry can measure you length and weight before you get to the scales and can do it while you are in motion you know there is a problem when the light comes on and says EXIT.
I see AZ gets a few buses with the long trailers look likes the entertainers buses but we are close to CA  lol  

good luck

Clifford, Stay in the left lane thru the weigh stations. All the weighing and measuring is done in the right lane.

Wayne

Quote from: rusty on May 23, 2011, 06:26:45 AM
Clifford, Stay in the right lane thru the weigh stations. All the weighing and measuring is done in the left lane.

Wayne

Wayne,

That is interesting. Thanks for the info. I have usually seen the WIM on the right lane. Makes sense that they would put it in the left. All that aside, we still have to pull in at the coops, because we are now commercial :-\.

John

John, I changed my post the measuring is done in the right lane. Are you saying I have to pull into the ports with the trailer? I have yet to pull into a port and you would think that I would have been caught by now.

Wayne

Wayne,

Thanks for clarifying. We do not pull a trailer. However, we had to go completely commercial, because we sell things when we travel. It was a long story, but bottom line is, the law says that if you make money (sell CD's, books, whatever), you are a CMV. So that is why we have to stop at the coops.  :(

John

I've triggered the weigh in motion stuff in Nebraska a half dozen times at least.  I have never exited and have never been chased by anyone.  I don't believe I was overlength any of the times I was asked to exit at the weigh station.

I want to see a night shot! Sure is purdy!

Yes, Light em' up! ;D nice job!

Seems like a lot of trouble just to carry one cup of coffee.