Well I'm being told that a Valve in the coach motor was ruined. the only solution or at least the costly way is to put in a re manufactured Motor. I';m looking for leads to someone who can help with this
location please from another post I see it is a MCI 1984 model what engine do have if the rest of the engine is in good shape just replace the head,injectors and cylinder kit
good luck
We are in Western NY its a 1984 MCI I was considering selling it till I found out about this. The mechanics say easiest and best way would be to replace it
Easiest, sure. Best - debatable but the odds are good that a reman will be a very good option. Quickest - probably. Cheapest - depends on the cost of the reman, and the depth of the repair. You could probably get away with as little as a cylinder head rebuild or swap, and one piston kit. Which engine is it?
Brian
because of rust the north east is really a treasure trove of used engines....just a matter of finding them. Consider a craigs search if you want to put in a different engine, but like luvrbus said, why not just R&R the cylinder etc...should be cheaper, especially if you do most of the work (other than running the mystical rack and other magical issues).
ZubZub,
Always into Sorcery and the Black Arts.....right? ::) ;D ;D
Everything I see on this post seems true and logical to me. No complement there.
An issue I didn't see was "what is the expected condition of the rest of the engine?" It sucked a valve, right? Does that calamity have a usual cause? Is age and general wear one( ??? ) of them? Act of God? I always have that old sage advice ringing in my ears.....rebuild the top end alone and get ready for the bottom end to drop out. I have lived that advice twice in all these many years and those bottom ends had no reason to go. Maybe DD is different and I sure hope so.
Zub mentioned that the road salt was a factor in many "unworn" engines being available and I have precious doubt in Zub's opinion on almost anything. This topic is not an exception. i would, however, like to add that the NE is highly seasonal and that adds to water build up in the oil. Their typical stop and go operation is anything but a life span extender. Must be a great place for good cores, for sure. It is not, however, a spot where you can just close your eyes and spin a bottle and purchase the engine that gets pointed out. AND Zub said nothing of the sort and didn't even imply that level of "out of the box" thinking. "Kaveeate Emperor", or something like that. ;)
John
We just ordered one from National Power Supply
Good move.
If it is not prying care to share how much that set you back?....nice to know these things in case they happen to me. Don't want to bug the guys at National Power Supply for something I don't need now.
Feel good about it!
There shouldn't be any more issues to think about in the engine department with a fresh one.
happy coaching!
buswarrior
I bought a 89 mci with antifreeze in the oil. Detroit dealer it came from said the motor was finished,and they could supply one for $20'000 dollars.With the guidance of an ex detroit mechanic (retired) we determined it was just a head gasket o-ring. Total cost of repair was $300 dollars abottle of rum and one weekend.Sometimes fixing is cheaper. Raymond
We had problem after problem,the last straw for my decision to put in a new engine was a dropped cylinder, two broken injectors and a busted piston ALL IN ONE DAY. 11,900 for the engine and 1000 to install it I hope that puts end to our engine issues for while and we can keep the band on the road
Sounds like a good investment to me. Thanks for passing on the cost etc....good to know what worse case scenarios can cost. Happy bussin.
Quote: I hope that puts end to our engine issues for while and we can keep the band on the road
This changes everything, from normal busnut logic.
This coach has to run, has to run now, and has to get everyone home again for their other lives.
Lots of bands have collapsed over the BS surrounding the transportation, when a busnut gets involved.
The rest of the band doesn't give a crap about any of it, they just want to perform and get home.
Quite a challenge for us busnuts to get our heads wrapped around that one!!
Sounds like a good price and a good decision!
happy coaching!
buswarrior
Yeah just checked fredcliffe's website, this is working entertainer coach...their flagship no less (also their only ship so probably pretty important).
Personally-I would pull the engine and take it apart to see what it only needs. This is called an overhaul. Replacing everything new on an engine whether it needs it or not is called a rebuild. Overhauling is always cheaper. You might only need one new cylinder-for example. Good Luck, TomC
That place he is buying the engine has a 100,000 mile warranty or did have and that is not a bad price a buddy just had a inframe done at Freightliner in Vegas for over 13 grand and they do crappy work
Well they MISSED the delivery date! Causing me to loose out on 4 gigs. and $$$$$ I was told maybe Monday but being a holiday I have my doubts.