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Title: Stud Pilot Wheels
Post by: saddleup on April 19, 2011, 06:21:10 AM
Anybody have source for Axel covers and center caps for 22.5 stud pilot wheels,i have spent hours searching internet and cant seem to find any thing that i am sure will fit my Eagle.
Thanks Matt
Title: Re: Stud Pilot Wheels
Post by: Van on April 19, 2011, 06:27:05 AM
Try this one Matt,
http://www.truckchrome.com/categories.aspx?m=20&c=2 (http://www.truckchrome.com/categories.aspx?m=20&c=2)
Pick me up a set too :D ;D
Title: Re: Stud Pilot Wheels
Post by: lostagain on April 19, 2011, 06:36:46 AM
The bigger truck stops have them in various sizes.

JC
Title: Re: Stud Pilot Wheels
Post by: luvrbus on April 19, 2011, 06:39:09 AM
Matt, rear drivers covers are easy to find but if you are looking for flush mounted for the front and boogie forget it unless you remove the wheels and grind the lip on the flange something I just would never do but other Eagle owner do that is why it doesn't have the Alcoa covers all the way around,fwiw Eagles with the 24.5 wheels it not a problem 

good luck
Title: Re: Stud Pilot Wheels
Post by: rv_safetyman on April 19, 2011, 07:04:38 AM
I can't speak to 22.5, but I have the Alcoa brand covers on my 24.5 aluminum wheels.  You do not want those!.  The covers are held on with special nut covers with plastic inserts that "clamp" around the lug nuts.  It is almost impossible to keep them tight on the nuts.  At the end of each day of travel, I have to take a rubber hammer and seat them firmly on the nut.

The other comment, is that you should choose covers for the front and bogie locations with inspection holes in them.  Mine were full covers and I used a large hole saw to make an inspection window.  I use this window to check the hub oil level and to give me access  so that I can measure hub temperature with the infrared temp gun.

Jim
Title: Re: Stud Pilot Wheels
Post by: luvrbus on April 19, 2011, 07:11:06 AM
Jim, he has Alcoa on the rears and keeps losing the nuts they now have screw on nuts for the covers his are push on a joke for 5 buck each about 20 bucks for each trip lol look at his photo he has open covers I always used those

good luck
Title: Re: Stud Pilot Wheels
Post by: rv_safetyman on April 19, 2011, 07:19:16 AM
Clifford, I can sure relate >:(.

I have two rubber impact type hammers that I use to drive the Alcoa nuts back on.  On the rear, I use one hammer as a "drift" and tap it with the other hammer.  Kind of a pain each evening, but I have not lost a nut in the past couple of years since I started that procedure.

Jim
Title: Re: Stud Pilot Wheels
Post by: TomC on April 19, 2011, 07:48:29 AM
I know that most will never go through a DOT inspection, but if you do, the full hub covers in the back will prevent you from getting a DOT approval.  The covers should be made that they can easily be removable with a simple set screw-rather then held on pinched between the wheel lug nuts and the wheel (requiring you to remove the lug nuts to get the hat off).  It is good sense also to not have a complete cover so you can visually inspect the wheels periodically (you do do that don't you?) for cracks.  Good Luck, TomC
Title: Re: Stud Pilot Wheels
Post by: Eagle Andy on April 19, 2011, 08:11:50 AM
I just ues a little dab of silacone and mine stay on just fine fwiw. and come off easy with just a little pull
Title: Re: Stud Pilot Wheels
Post by: Pete359EX on April 19, 2011, 08:26:40 AM
http://www.bigrigchromeshop.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?page=BRCS/CTGY/UEHC (http://www.bigrigchromeshop.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?page=BRCS/CTGY/UEHC)

Be sure to look for the thread on type application. I've been using for years now, with no problem. Avoid the push on.
Fred
Title: Re: Stud Pilot Wheels
Post by: artvonne on April 19, 2011, 08:46:53 AM
  I had thought about having my Bus hauled home rather than driving, until I was told the fees were "by the hour". When I was switching wheels I realised the Bus had Chrome rear axle hub covers. If I had been dumb enough to pay for a tow, I would have been paying labor to R&R the rear wheels so they could pull the axles. The covers went in the dumpster. Plus I have always hated phony Chrome crap. Thats not to say I hate Chrome, but that I hate Chrome covers on things. Like those Chrome wraps they put on starters on hot rods. Its like Ricer junk.

  OMG, could you imagine a riced out Bus?
Title: Re: Stud Pilot Wheels
Post by: Len Silva on April 19, 2011, 09:04:05 AM
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Title: Re: Stud Pilot Wheels
Post by: jackhartjr on April 19, 2011, 10:08:12 AM
TomC, nailed it.  If the DOT wants to look at the seals...and they are covered they WILL require you to take the covers off. 
Don't think that down the road DOT won't be looking at RV's.
Ray LaHood, (Ray the Hood) that heads the DOT is trying to get his business in every aspect of transportation.  We had the discussion awhile back about cell phones going to be banned if he has his way.  (CB radios too!)
Just a matter of time!
Jack
Title: Re: Stud Pilot Wheels
Post by: Sean on April 19, 2011, 10:43:17 AM
Quote from: jackhartjr on April 19, 2011, 10:08:12 AM
Don't think that down the road DOT won't be looking at RV's.
Umm, they can't, really.  The feds can not regulate non-commercial vehicles.  Thus sayeth the constitution of the United States.  The opposite is also true: states can not interfere with federally approved vehicles in interstate commerce.

That said, nothing at all stops any state from imposing whatever regulations they like upon non-commercial vehicles.  And the feds do have some influence, in the sense that they can withhold highway funds from any state that does not comply with whatever they are trying to push.  This is how we ended up with a national 55mph speed limit once upon a time.

-Sean
http://OurOdyssey.BlogSpot.com (http://ourodyssey.blogspot.com)
Title: Re: Stud Pilot Wheels
Post by: Ed Hackenbruch on April 19, 2011, 11:10:00 AM
Matt, if you can hold off for a week, check with me at the rally. I might have a deal for you. :)
Title: Re: Stud Pilot Wheels
Post by: saddleup on April 19, 2011, 12:06:24 PM
HI, Ed, i can wait, that will be great.
Matt
Title: Re: Stud Pilot Wheels
Post by: jackhartjr on April 19, 2011, 01:39:51 PM
Sean...not trying to be argumentative here...any 'Revenue enhancement agent' out here that deals with truck safety 'thinks' they have a right to inspect any vehicle, 'in the name of safety'. 
I was trying to chase one of our own nicest looking conversions down in GA recently, almost caught him, I had to go in the scales.  At that moment in time a GA DOT revenue enhancement agent ran to his SUV, went sideways out of there, almost hit a truck in the rear on the accelleration lane and there he was with our friend pulled over at the next exit.  I do not know what happened...I hope to in a few days at the Southeast Bus Nuts Rally.
Jack
Title: Re: Stud Pilot Wheels
Post by: Sean on April 20, 2011, 09:32:29 AM
Quote from: jackhartjr on April 19, 2011, 01:39:51 PM
Sean...not trying to be argumentative here...any 'Revenue enhancement agent' out here that deals with truck safety 'thinks' they have a right to inspect any vehicle, 'in the name of safety'. 
You're right, but, as I said, that is a matter of state and not federal law.  And so who can pull you over and what they can write you for varies widely state by state.

You suggested that Ray LaHood could make changes such as mandating inspections for RVs, but he can't, because the federal government can not regulate non-commercial vehicles.  Only the states can do that.

Some states see RVs as essentially no different from trucks, while other states see them as essentially no different from cars.  I don't doubt that, as RVs get ever larger and heavier, and as the amount of damage and injury they cause grows, some states may decide to start inspecting RVs and mandating that they stop at inspection and weigh stations.  But today, the magnitude of the problem is so small, that it is unlikely to get any attention from state legislators.  What is most likely to change that is a high-profile case such as someone with a class-C license driving a 50,000-lb coach wiping out a family of four in a crash.

-Sean
http://OurOdyssey.BlogSpot.com (http://ourodyssey.blogspot.com)
Title: Re: Stud Pilot Wheels
Post by: stevet903 on April 20, 2011, 05:10:17 PM
I use these nut covers:

http://www.westcoastmall.net/alcoa-bulk-hex-lug-nut-cover-p-2959.html (http://www.westcoastmall.net/alcoa-bulk-hex-lug-nut-cover-p-2959.html)

and this hub cap

http://www.75chromeshop.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=13_76_160_169&products_id=1426 (http://www.75chromeshop.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=13_76_160_169&products_id=1426)

for the tag and steer on my 89 Prevost XL with 22.5 stud pilot aluminum wheels.  I have never had a problem with these nut covers coming off.  I went through a few of the center caps before I found this one that fit.  Most have tabs that are too deep.  The problem with this one is that it is chrome plated steel and not stainless, it lasts about a year before it starts to get pitted.  I should probably try waxing them to see if it would prevent the pitting...   I used to have these hub covers - http://orrcointernational.com/PDF/Spec%20Data%20Guide%20-%20ENGLISH.pdf, (http://orrcointernational.com/PDF/Spec%20Data%20Guide%20-%20ENGLISH.pdf,) but the screw-on nut covers would not stay on, and it got expensive real quick replacing the various parts that fell off.  Still looking for a drive hub cover though...
Title: Re: Stud Pilot Wheels
Post by: saddleup on April 20, 2011, 06:01:41 PM
Steve, thanks alot the 1.5 nut cover with flange is what i been looking for, i have the center, just need the flanged covers.
By the way i have never lost the covers off my nuts ,that would be the p o.
Thanks Matt
Title: Re: Stud Pilot Wheels
Post by: luvrbus on April 20, 2011, 06:25:30 PM
You don't lose the nuts as much as do by somebody stealing those Matt only the Alcoa nuts work with those covers fwiw,call Jim Smith he found a outlet those he will be at the rally in Utah also me I would change to the screw on type nut by Alcoa

good luck
Title: Re: Stud Pilot Wheels
Post by: buswarrior on April 22, 2011, 05:06:12 AM
Contributing to the dual streams...

I think the biggest threat are the large number of entertainer coaches that are breaking the law by running as rv's.

These guys are hired help, running hard, fast and long, with no log books, no vehicle inspections, etc.

We will get caught up in the sweep when they go after the outlaws, and depending on what they find... may trigger further interest...

stay invisible, and keep the coach maintained.

happy coaching!
buswarrior
Title: Re: Stud Pilot Wheels
Post by: chev49 on April 22, 2011, 06:39:24 AM
OK... will paint all vehicles with camouflage paint
Title: Re: Stud Pilot Wheels
Post by: jackhartjr on April 22, 2011, 06:51:04 AM
BW...I had a part in getting a bunch of the entertainer guys legal a few years back.  It is getting much better!
Jack
Title: Re: Stud Pilot Wheels
Post by: Boomer on April 22, 2011, 08:49:52 AM
I was in Nashville recently.  The major entertainer leasing outfits are (or soon will be) going legal.  Most already have their USDOT numbers and are following the regs (more or less).  The lower tier cars are going to be forced to join in also.