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Title: Tire prices - ouch! Mistake!
Post by: plyonsMC9 on September 15, 2006, 02:38:46 PM
Last year, before leaving on a trip, I spotted a steering tire which was having some separation.   So, pressed for time, I had it replaced.  Didn't pay that much attention to price.  Just wanted to "git 'er done".  The tire dealer put on a Toyo tire.  Now, a year later, I want to replace the other steering tire and match it up.  $469.00 !!  Over $100 more than the comparable Bridgestone tires.  Two different distributers came back with about the same price.  For some reason, I didn't think about the consequences in the future when I would have to match up a second tire to match the other steer tire. 

Oh well, if I can help someone else out by my mi$take, at lea$t it won't be a total lo$$     >:(   ;D

Best Regards, Phil




Title: Re: Tire prices - ouch! Mistake!
Post by: FloridaCliff on September 15, 2006, 02:49:56 PM
Phil,

Don't feel bad.....

I have fuel in my tank that I thought was a bargain until today....

Its impossible to predict changes in the world market....Just glad I have all new tires from last year ;D

See, you made me feel better ;)

Cliff
Title: Re: Tire prices - ouch! Mistake!
Post by: tekebird on September 15, 2006, 03:38:52 PM
TOYO tires uuuused to be a value.......until they got a large demand and a following.....

My Ditributor told bme 12r22.5's in a rib are backordered and won't be in country till after the new year....unless someone had them in stock already
Title: Re: Tire prices - ouch! Mistake!
Post by: plyonsMC9 on September 15, 2006, 03:43:34 PM
Yes, from the different distributers, I can only find a total of 3 - - TIRES - - in Illinois.  Not leaving me much negotiating room.

Aaarrrgh.    (National Talk like a Pirate day is September 19th)

Best Regards, Phil
Title: Re: Tire prices - ouch! Mistake!
Post by: Nick Badame Refrig/ACC on September 15, 2006, 07:41:53 PM
Aaarrrgh, Matie

Thier she blows.....[air horns]  Iiii spotted a land lubber [bus nut]

swaaab de deck mate [clean the bus]    D map will lead us to Goold [gps route to Arcadia]

Just some fun......

Nick-
Title: Re: Tire prices - ouch! Mistake!
Post by: plyonsMC9 on September 15, 2006, 08:27:46 PM
Smartly done thar Nick.   ;D

And for those who can't resist ( and who would want to be resistin' something International in scope like this? ) see ye:

http://www.talklikeapirate.com/faq.html

to be startin' .

Googling  same provides will be providin'  a major amount of hits.

Avast!    :D

aaaaarrrr


Title: Re: Tire prices - ouch! Mistake!
Post by: Dallas on September 16, 2006, 04:53:50 AM
♫♪♫♪ I want to sing and dance,
I want to sing and dance.
in the "Pirates of Penzance".
Wear me silver buckle slippers and me tight shiney pant's,
I want to sing and dance!♫♪♫♪
-------Ray Stevens
                 
Title: Re: Tire prices - ouch! Mistake!
Post by: JLL on September 16, 2006, 11:44:04 AM
IN June I bought 6 new toyos 11- 22.5 in Hood River Oregon,  mounted and balanced for $1900.
Title: Re: Tire prices - ouch! Mistake!
Post by: plyonsMC9 on September 16, 2006, 01:23:31 PM
Good afternoon JLL,

Welcome to the group! 

I should have mentioned, these are the bus tires,  12 R  - 22.5.  And those seem to have quite a premium.  Though the Bridgestones were about $100 + less per tire.  They had some good deals on the 11 R 22.5, but that wouldn't have matched my other steering tire.

Best Regards, Phil
Title: Re: Tire prices - ouch! Mistake!
Post by: Ross on September 16, 2006, 04:12:02 PM
Last year this time I bought 6 Sumotomo's for $260 each.  Two weeks ago the same tire was $385 each.

Ross
Title: Re: Tire prices - ouch! Mistake!
Post by: Craig R on September 17, 2006, 12:56:26 PM
What's your spare look like, Phil? perhaps it's time to stow the Toyo in the hold and  match your previous spare instead -- replace and match maybe.
Craig R
Title: Re: Tire prices - ouch! Mistake!
Post by: plyonsMC9 on September 17, 2006, 01:19:51 PM
Greetings Craig!  Welcome to the board - and thanks for jumping in on this thread  to offer some advice for my tire woes.   ;D

Swapping out with a good spare,, and making it the new primary steer tire along with another new (less expensive) steer tire is a great idea.

Unfortunately in my case, the spare is, uhm, well, not very good.  In fact, I'm thinking of moving the tire I will be replacing, and making it the new spare.  The old spare needs to be taken to tire heaven now.   :D

How is it going with your engine problems with your 6v71?

Kind Regards, Phil

Title: Re: Tire prices - ouch! Mistake!
Post by: Busted Knuckle on September 17, 2006, 02:57:35 PM
Hey Phil,
Here's a thought that I avoided mentioning to you as I know most busnuts are limited on a budget. But a lot of times when I find myself in your position with a "new" tire and an outrageous price on a "brand new" tire to replace it, I take one I haev and use it as a spare. Then I buy a pair of steer tires (I always try to buy steer tires as a pair, & always put "new" tires on the steer and relocate the old ones as needed), as time goes on and I need to replace drives I take the "best drive tire" and replace it as the spare then I buy 3 tires (what ever good tire I can get at a fair price) and put the "like new" spare on with the 3 new tires. So far after maintaining commercial charter buses for almost 7 years now this has worked out to be a great way of doing it. But I also know ya'll go thru don't go thru tires like we do!  But for what it's worth theres my idea! BK ;D

PS If yer coming to the "TN FALL BUS BASH @ Knuckle's" I can probably get you a good price on some Kumho's or Wahn Li's (or something like that * I got 7 of 'm on the drives along with 1 Gd Yr and no problems since MAY)

"TN FALL BUS BASH @ Knuckle's" is the place to be! Oct. 26th-31st
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Title: Re: Tire prices - ouch! Mistake!
Post by: Craig R on September 17, 2006, 09:20:27 PM
Good memory, Phil, and thanks for the encouragement. Exploration of my 6V71 problem has been delayed a little while. On that same trip I noticed a seeping leak from one of my radiators. I've yanked both radiators and the surge tank and sent them for maintenance/repair; so I can't run the engine until that system's reassembled. You wouldn't happen to know where a fella could get a new lens for the sight glass on the surge tank on an MC5C, would you?
Craig R
Title: Re: Tire prices - ouch! Mistake!
Post by: plyonsMC9 on September 18, 2006, 05:06:11 AM
Hi Craig,

I don't know where to find that part - If it were me, I'd post a new topic, with the heading - need surge tank sight glass for MCI5C

My guess is you would get a suggestion from that post.

You might also try your regular mechanic for heavy work - unless of course, you do that yourself.  In which case, that wouldn't help in this case.   ;)

Please do keep us posted on your progress.

Hope this helps, Phil
Title: Re: Tire prices - ouch! Mistake!
Post by: dwbruner on September 20, 2006, 09:37:25 AM
Our local Sam's Club sells commercial tires (11R22.5, 11R24.5, 295/75R22.5 and 285/75R24.5), but they don't have the equipment to mount & balance them.  It is a Vesta tire, but I was told that they are manufactured by Goodyear?  ???  They are advertised at $226 and a local shop quoted me $20/tire to mount & balance.
Title: Re: Tire prices - ouch! Mistake!
Post by: belfert on September 20, 2006, 05:38:49 PM
Quote from: dwbruner on September 20, 2006, 09:37:25 AM
Our local Sam's Club sells commercial tires (11R22.5, 11R24.5, 295/75R22.5 and 285/75R24.5), but they don't have the equipment to mount & balance them.  It is a Vesta tire, but I was told that they are manufactured by Goodyear?  ???  They are advertised at $226 and a local shop quoted me $20/tire to mount & balance.

Interesting.  The local Sam's Club quoted me a lot higher than that for 11R24.5 tires.  I think it was around $375.  They didn't really know anything about them as the commercial/RV tires are a new line and they had never sold any.  This was back in March or April when I asked.

Be warned that some of the offbrand tires that are supposedly Goodyears are made in China.

Brian Elfert
Title: Re: Tire prices - ouch! Mistake!
Post by: Busted Knuckle on September 21, 2006, 12:19:53 AM
Quote from: belfert on September 20, 2006, 05:38:49 PM
Be warned that some of the offbrand tires that are supposedly Goodyears are made in China.

Brian Elfert

Hmmm, I wonder where the Kumho's and Wanli's I have been running on our coaches with NO TROUBLES AT ALL are from?

Don't care either! I hate GoodYear (I know from local experience how the quality is at the Union City, Plant!)& Firestone! And the price on these I am running were right for me to give 'm a try and after several yrs of charter service I'm still happy with them! BK ;D
Title: Re: Tire prices - ouch! Mistake!
Post by: Runcutter on September 21, 2006, 03:58:50 PM
As it turns out, I'm in the market for a set of tires (at least, steers) for the new 4107.  (Of course, you realize that this is the only place you can use the word "new" and  "4107" in the same sentence). 

Since they'll likely weather out (Texas, even with tire shields) before wearing out tread, I don't want to invest in Michelins, etc.  If Bryce says Kumho's and Wanli's work for him, that's good enough for me.  I wouldn't have a problem with takeoffs that I could still get 3-4 years out of, either.  I'm pretty sure I have 12.5R 22.5's, but frankly, getting the Mother-in-Law home safely to Massachusetts, bus safely to Dallas, were greater priorities than checking tire size - and I was only home a few days before getting back on the airplane for business.

So, any thoughts on sources/prices in the Dallas area?

Arthur Gaudet   Carrollton, TX