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Title: rv toilets
Post by: johns4104 on January 24, 2011, 05:46:03 PM
I bought a cheap valterra toilet and am now paying for it.
The water never shuts of and it does not seem to seal well to keep the stink out.

what are suggestions and experiences for a good toilet at a reasonable price.

Thanks,
John
Title: Re: rv toilets
Post by: moose on January 24, 2011, 05:55:40 PM
try colaws in joplin missouri rv salvage yard

thedford toilet
Title: Re: rv toilets
Post by: PSmith on January 24, 2011, 06:05:46 PM
I've got a Sealand china bowl.  I like it, but would buy a more elongated shaped bowl next time.  Not as comfortable as it could be.   :'(

phil
Title: Re: rv toilets
Post by: Seayfam on January 24, 2011, 06:20:44 PM
I have the THETFORD Aqua-Magic style ll  in my bus, it's full china and uses residential seats. You can get it in 14" high or 19.5" high. The mechanism wipes clean with every flush. I really like this toilet in comparison to the cheap ones in the stick and staple RVs that I have owned. FWIW

Gary
Title: Re: rv toilets
Post by: artvonne on January 24, 2011, 06:53:10 PM
  The first Bus I had, a 3751, had a genuine residential ceramic toilet. Ive seen a few conversions with one since, but have no working knowledge, pro or con, about them. Other than possible water sloshing, is there any real problem with them?
Title: Re: rv toilets
Post by: belfert on January 24, 2011, 07:04:12 PM
The biggest issue with a residential toilet is water usage.
Title: Re: rv toilets
Post by: Seayfam on January 24, 2011, 07:23:09 PM
Quote from: artvonne on January 24, 2011, 06:53:10 PM
  The first Bus I had, a 3751, had a genuine residential ceramic toilet. Ive seen a few conversions with one since, but have no working knowledge, pro or con, about them. Other than possible water sloshing, is there any real problem with them?


As mentioned it will use a lot of water if you are boondocking. Also the top could possibly fall off on the Al-can highway (Alaska Canada) lol! I have a remote recreational cabin in Alaska and I have a problem with RV antifreeze freezing in the p-traps. I ended up having to use automotive antifreeze.
I think I am going to switch the cabin over to an RV toilet.

Gary
Title: Re: rv toilets
Post by: artvonne on January 24, 2011, 08:00:18 PM
Quote from: belfert on January 24, 2011, 07:04:12 PM
The biggest issue with a residential toilet is water usage.

  Cant use anymore water than an RV type that sticks open after the kid uses it and it empties the tank. BTDT. But I do see the point. Is that the only reason?
Title: Re: rv toilets
Post by: Fred Mc on January 24, 2011, 08:09:06 PM
What about the new lo-flow toilets. How much water do they use?
Title: Re: rv toilets
Post by: Seayfam on January 24, 2011, 08:37:00 PM
The new low consumption toilet uses 1.5 gal and don't flush very well.
Also winterizing uses at least 2 gallons. I think splashing out of the lid would be a concern also.
Just my thoughts

Gary
Title: Re: rv toilets
Post by: Dave5Cs on January 24, 2011, 09:34:47 PM
John Sealand 510 Series China Bowl Marine

http://www.sealandtechnology.com/prodsm.asp (http://www.sealandtechnology.com/prodsm.asp)

Dave
Title: Re: rv toilets
Post by: artvonne on January 24, 2011, 09:52:27 PM
  We had a vacuity at the other house, it had some upside down tank inside the main tank that (somehow, I forget how it worked exactly) helped it increase water flow while using less water. That worked really good. Also, the old fashioned type with the tank up near the cieling might work better with less water, because of the fall.

  As for winterising, once the tank is empty you can plunge the toilet, which will blow out the trap. Splash some antifreeze in the tank and flush it into the trap, you should be fine.

  As far as splashing, I dont see that being an issue unless you made a very, very extreme manuever, and even then I bet it would be minor. I never spill anything, not even coffee, even though im riding on bumpy leaf springs. A Bus is more stable.
Title: Re: rv toilets
Post by: Seayfam on January 24, 2011, 10:14:48 PM
Quote from: Dave5Cs on January 24, 2011, 09:34:47 PM
John Sealand 510 Series China Bowl Marine

http://www.sealandtechnology.com/prodsm.asp (http://www.sealandtechnology.com/prodsm.asp)

Dave


Now that looks like a nice toilet!!
Title: Re: rv toilets
Post by: JWallin on January 25, 2011, 04:39:34 AM
We sure like out Kohler.
Title: Re: rv toilets
Post by: belfert on January 25, 2011, 05:24:08 AM
An RV toilet sticking open and emptying the tank is a pretty rare occurance.  Until yesterday I had never heard of that happening in fact.  You're more likely to have a residential toilet flapper get stuck open than an RV toilet.  How many people have leaky toilets in stick homes?  A full flow residential toilet uses 5 gallons per flush.  A low flow uses 1.6 gallons.  An RV toilet generally between a pint and a quart. 

I've had low flow toilets in my stick home for almost 10 years now.  They don't clog any more than any other toilet.  Early low flow toilets were bad, but not modern versions.  I don't know where you might find a full flow toilet these days.  You would probably have to pull one out of an old house or maybe a reuse store might have one.

I have a Thetford Aria Classic toilet.  Full ceramic with elongated bowl.  Not cheap at $430, but worth it to me.
Title: Re: rv toilets
Post by: mcidave on January 25, 2011, 05:52:44 AM
I have the exact same problem with my valterra toilet and I am looking for a good RV toilet the is priced reasonably. If I find a good deal I will pass it on...
Title: Re: rv toilets
Post by: bevans6 on January 25, 2011, 06:24:34 AM
I had to replace the head in our bus last spring, two days before leaving for our trip to South Carolina I found that I had freeze damage that couldn't be repaired...  I picked up one of these  Dometic 310's at our local RV supplier on sale for $135.  Totally satisfied, cleans well, seals well, is full sized in both height and seat, installed in minutes (took a lot longer to get the old Thetford mini horrible unit out).  If you are looking for an inexpensive china throne, it's a recommended choice as far as I'm concerned.  Only had it for one season, mind you.

http://www.pplmotorhomes.com/parts/rv-toilets-tanks/dometic-310-toilet.htm (http://www.pplmotorhomes.com/parts/rv-toilets-tanks/dometic-310-toilet.htm)

Not where I bought mine, just a handy link.

Brian
Title: Re: rv toilets
Post by: Jriddle on January 25, 2011, 06:50:06 AM
Quote from: Seayfam on January 24, 2011, 06:20:44 PM
I have the THETFORD Aqua-Magic style ll  in my bus, it's full china and uses residential seats. You can get it in 14" high or 19.5" high. The mechanism wipes clean with every flush. I really like this toilet in comparison to the cheap ones in the stick and staple RVs that I have owned. FWIW

Gary

I have this one and like it very well. I got mine off eBay for a good price. I like how it flushes also.

John
Title: Re: rv toilets
Post by: luvrbus on January 25, 2011, 11:23:19 AM
John, they are not cheap but the Microphor unit is hard to beat try AZ RV Salvage in Phoenix he gets those in time to time I would not have any other type my self


good luck
Title: Re: rv toilets
Post by: johns4104 on January 26, 2011, 09:17:14 AM
thx for the info. guys, I will start looking!

John
Title: Re: rv toilets
Post by: Dave5Cs on January 26, 2011, 11:02:43 AM
As extra insurance I put 1/4 turn shut off valves at toilet and sprayer so when we leave the coach for any long time venture I shut those off as well as pump.

Dave
Title: Re: rv toilets
Post by: johns4104 on January 26, 2011, 05:58:53 PM
Dave,
I already added the 1/4 turn to my toilet.
Good idea!

John
Title: Re: rv toilets
Post by: Van on January 27, 2011, 05:32:19 AM
John, FWIW we just installed a Dometic 310 and am very happy with it so far. $145  locally @ JW RV Vegas, took all of about 15 minutes to install, like with any toilet, watch out for the freezing temps. good luck!
(https://busconversionmagazine.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi457.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fqq292%2Fcwvanhagen%2Fnewtoilet031.jpg&hash=811c6e3f7009d0c64c75278cc8e2fb9f856beaf6)

   Van
Title: Re: rv toilets
Post by: Dave5Cs on January 27, 2011, 08:34:35 AM
Van I guess that is  temp set up eh. If constipated, just grab the electric wire to shock the $#%& out of you? LOL

Dave
Title: Re: rv toilets
Post by: johns4104 on January 27, 2011, 08:40:20 AM
Guys,
I just ordered the dometic 310 so we will wait and see how it does.

Thanks,
John
Title: Re: rv toilets
Post by: Van on January 27, 2011, 02:34:41 PM
Lol! Dave no need to grab hold, it is a plug in sort of affair ;D ;D