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Title: Does anyone know this bus?
Post by: thejumpsuitman on January 15, 2011, 10:37:25 PM
I have been talking to the owner of this bus.  It is 90% complete.  Looks like a great bus and was wondering if anybody knows the bus or the owner or if anybody has looked at it? 

Thanks
Marc

http://www.classyrv.com/91162 (http://www.classyrv.com/91162)
Title: Re: Does anyone know this bus?
Post by: Dreamscape on January 16, 2011, 02:44:43 AM
I haven't seen this bus in person, but can offer a few things to check out. What is the ride height, needs to be around 12-14" from ground to bay tubing? How much adjustment is left on the rear axle torsalastics, along with the front and tag axles? Check for rust, is the aluminum siding straight? In other words, no waves. It's like any bus of that age, just be aware of potential money pits.

Look for any leaks around the windows, especially around the breastplate. We had to remove ours due to cancer, replaced it with a fiberglass one from R&M.

My guess, due to the fact it's had many lookers according to the site, it's a bit overpriced. It's hard to say without seeing it in person. How far away from it do you live? I do believe I've seen it on eBay a time or two.

What's the VIN#?

The Silver Eagle has a superior ride, ours is like riding on a cloud. Smooth as silk.

If you have any more questions, don't hesitate to PM me.

Paul
Title: Re: Does anyone know this bus?
Post by: luvrbus on January 16, 2011, 05:59:28 AM
Maybe a 7 to $10,000 bus you can tell the under carriage is wore out and only way you can fix that part on a 01 is install air bags to lift it (no parts),no power steering worthless bi fold doors,the stuff on the ceiling will not hold up you will be replacing that in time just not a good conversion  JMHO




good luck
Title: Re: Does anyone know this bus?
Post by: RottenBob on January 16, 2011, 06:23:01 AM
I know it has been for sale for a long, long time; it was for sale a couple years ago when I was looking for a bus. One odd thing is that after a few months of having it not sell, rather than lowering the price the owner actually raised the price. He has also been trying to trade it for a backhoe, among other things. The fact that it has been for sale for so long would concern me.
Title: Re: Does anyone know this bus?
Post by: thejumpsuitman on January 16, 2011, 06:35:28 AM
I'm getting a lot of PM's of people selling their buses, which I appreciate, but just want it to be known that the deal this guy offered was to trade for my gas-powered 1974 Wanderlodge even steven.  I am not a cash buyer until my Bluebird sells.

Marc
Title: Re: Does anyone know this bus?
Post by: luvrbus on January 16, 2011, 06:57:57 AM
May not be a bad trade for you I had a early BB with the industrial Ford engine   


good luck
Title: Re: Does anyone know this bus?
Post by: desi arnaz on January 16, 2011, 07:26:04 AM
looks like a cheap p.o.s to me.. what kind of idiot would put a ceiling fan in a bus? and bead boards? what were they thinking?
Title: Re: Does anyone know this bus?
Post by: 5B Steve on January 16, 2011, 08:39:29 AM



    I saw it listed on CRAIGSLIST FOR $ 19,000.00


     Steve 5B......
Title: Re: Does anyone know this bus?
Post by: Len Silva on January 16, 2011, 08:43:41 AM
I would only look at it as a shell with a few good parts.  If it is DOCUMENTED engine with 5000 miles, that's a consideration.  Without docs, it's just another used engine.  It does have $600.00 worth of fuel in it.  he rest of the conversion is a gut job, I don't know if it would be easier or harder than gutting a passenger bur for conversion.  I would not trade a running conversion for it.
Title: Re: Does anyone know this bus?
Post by: luvrbus on January 16, 2011, 08:47:12 AM
LOl Len you must have not ever owned a FC BlueBird with the industrial Ford engine



good luck
Title: Re: Does anyone know this bus?
Post by: thejumpsuitman on January 16, 2011, 10:04:36 AM
Quote from: Len Silva on January 16, 2011, 08:43:41 AM
I would only look at it as a shell with a few good parts.  If it is DOCUMENTED engine with 5000 miles, that's a consideration.  Without docs, it's just another used engine.  It does have $600.00 worth of fuel in it.  he rest of the conversion is a gut job, I don't know if it would be easier or harder than gutting a passenger bur for conversion.  I would not trade a running conversion for it.

I agree that it is at least a partial gut job, but the nasty works seems to be done.  Looks like mostly finish work left to me, and from where it is, re-doing what is not appealing wouldn't seem too bad.  Am I wrong?
Title: Re: Does anyone know this bus?
Post by: Barn Owl on January 16, 2011, 10:26:52 AM
An unfinished conversion can be much like an unfinished bachelors degree. What good does it do ya? Prices are depressed enough for completed buses, a lot less for one that is a work in progress. I love Eagles but I don't think I would own one unless I knew the frame was in good shape or redone. You can find completed conversions for the same money, less work.
Title: Re: Does anyone know this bus?
Post by: Iceni John on January 16, 2011, 10:57:29 AM
I hope the asking price includes the bay doors' lift struts (picture 15).   Without them I wouldn't even consider this bus . . .

John
Title: Re: Does anyone know this bus?
Post by: luvrbus on January 16, 2011, 11:03:52 AM
250 bucks worth wouldn't be a deal killer if the supports are still there



good luck
Title: Re: Does anyone know this bus?
Post by: Highway Yacht on January 16, 2011, 11:10:52 AM
Hasn't that bus been on Craigslist for better than a year?? Seems like their is already thread on it somewhere either here or over at Eagles International. I may be wrong but I thought he use to have it listed for sale because his wife died. Now it is for health reasons..
Title: Re: Does anyone know this bus?
Post by: Busted Knuckle on January 16, 2011, 01:40:44 PM
Quote from: Highway Yacht on January 16, 2011, 11:10:52 AM
Hasn't that bus been on Craigslist for better than a year?? Seems like their is already thread on it somewhere either here or over at Eagles International. I may be wrong but I thought he use to have it listed for sale because his wife died. Now it is for health reasons..

Well if she died that is sort of a health reason. She ain't healthy no-mo!
;D  BK  ;D
Title: Re: Does anyone know this bus?
Post by: jackhartjr on January 16, 2011, 01:50:14 PM
Damn Bryce...I was thinking the EXACT same thing!
Jack
Title: Re: Does anyone know this bus?
Post by: Ed Hackenbruch on January 16, 2011, 02:23:11 PM
That makes 3 of us! ;D
Title: Re: Does anyone know this bus?
Post by: Highway Yacht on January 16, 2011, 02:24:55 PM
Quote from: Busted Knuckle on January 16, 2011, 01:40:44 PM
Quote from: Highway Yacht on January 16, 2011, 11:10:52 AM
Hasn't that bus been on Craigslist for better than a year?? Seems like their is already thread on it somewhere either here or over at Eagles International. I may be wrong but I thought he use to have it listed for sale because his wife died. Now it is for health reasons..

Well if she died that is sort of a health reason. She ain't healthy no-mo!
;D  BK  ;D

But you see.... The wife dying was the first reason... Now it is for sale because of health reasons... but he is willing to trade for another bus?? Do those health reasons go away with another bus?? If that was the case then anyone that had health problems could be cured with buying a bus. I sorta like the thinking behind that. I would think Health reasons would have been BEFORE the Death reason. Who knows, that might not even be the same bus.
Title: Re: Does anyone know this bus?
Post by: boxcarOkie on January 16, 2011, 02:44:31 PM
Quote from: luvrbus on January 16, 2011, 11:03:52 AM
250 bucks worth wouldn't be a deal killer if the supports are still there



good luck

Not wanting to highjack a promising thread (yawn) do you know a good supplier for gas shocks, I need one.

DS
Title: Re: Does anyone know this bus?
Post by: jimsflx on January 16, 2011, 02:54:25 PM
i was in the area last year and looked at this eagle. he was asking 19,000 then.i did not look long.pretty rough inside and out. good luck jim
Title: Re: Does anyone know this bus?
Post by: thejumpsuitman on January 16, 2011, 03:15:32 PM
In fairness to the gentleman selling the bus, he would be going from a non power steering 4 speed spicer to a usable bus with power steering and automatic. 

Anyway, thanks for all the input. 
Title: Re: Does anyone know this bus?
Post by: DMoedave on January 16, 2011, 03:48:03 PM
You will have to deciede if this is worth it or not to you. If you have a place to keep it and work on it you would have a classic Eagle. What everyone is trying to tell you is that there are ALOT of better deals out there. But also if you can/would trade yours for his and his is running legal and safe (!) its your choice. How often do you use your current rig for instance. Any bus can be a big $ pit. I like the classic looks but as to the interior, only you can decide. Good luck. Hope your a bus owner soon. (Please make sure this thing runs down the road. Run her up to the Wildweed truck stop and back on a nice warm day.
Title: Re: Does anyone know this bus?
Post by: Highway Yacht on January 16, 2011, 03:57:50 PM
Quote from: thejumpsuitman on January 16, 2011, 03:15:32 PM
In fairness to the gentleman selling the bus, he would be going from a non power steering 4 speed spicer to a usable bus with power steering and automatic. 

Anyway, thanks for all the input. 

Marc.. That is understandable.. Maybe you should make a trip to check it out and maybe have another Eagle busnut in the area to meet you there if one is available. Your gut feeling should tell you something after you see it in person. If your gut feeling is a positive one then have the bus thoroughly checked out. The Eagle guys can tell you what to look for. I agree that its hard to beat the classic look of an Eagle. Good Luck in whatever you decide.

Jimmy
Title: Re: Does anyone know this bus?
Post by: thejumpsuitman on January 16, 2011, 04:00:08 PM
Quote from: DMoedave on January 16, 2011, 03:48:03 PM
You will have to deciede if this is worth it or not to you. If you have a place to keep it and work on it you would have a classic Eagle. What everyone is trying to tell you is that there are ALOT of better deals out there. But also if you can/would trade yours for his and his is running legal and safe (!) its your choice. How often do you use your current rig for instance. Any bus can be a big $ pit. I like the classic looks but as to the interior, only you can decide. Good luck. Hope your a bus owner soon. (Please make sure this thing runs down the road. Run her up to the Wildweed truck stop and back on a nice warm day.

I appreciate all the input.  Since it has come up, I have been leaning away from the deal, especially considering that I don't really care for a lot of what has been done.  Major systems are in place, that was the appeal.  No question there are better buses out there, but not as many people willing to trade.  I have had a ton of interest in my bus @ $15K and a several trade offers for everything from hot rods to  real estate... Just no cash. :-\

The ideal thing would be to sell mine, then use the power of cash to get a screaming great deal on a finished coach.  Believe me, if I was a cash buyer, this bus wouldn't even be a consideration.
Title: Re: Does anyone know this bus?
Post by: thejumpsuitman on January 19, 2011, 01:08:00 PM
A couple days ago I asked the seller to measure the ride height and adjustment left on the torsion bars.  He just emailed me the following response...

Hi Marc;
I got the numbers you requested. Measuring from the bottom of the body to concrete slab is as follows;
left front= 12"
left rear =10-1/4"
right front=12"
right rear=10"
Length on thread adjustment remaining on left torqualactic tube=2"
length of thread adjustment remaining on right tube=1-7/8".
If you should need anything else, let me know.


I was all but off this bus, but would still welcome thoughts on it.  It does have some appeal to me.  Gotta love an Eagle.  The story is that it was part of a charter fleet in Virginia with a maintenance records, including a recent rebuild, brakes and clutch.  It also has tons and tons of new conversion parts with zero time, including a 12kw generator.

To be honest, the most appealing thing is the even trade aspect of it with no cash out which would allow me to pick away at it and do some custom things inside that would suit our needs.  Just trying to remain open minded.


Title: Re: Does anyone know this bus?
Post by: Highway Yacht on January 19, 2011, 01:26:37 PM
You don't happen to know the name of the Charter Fleet in Virginia do you??? Could it have been Abbott Bus Lines aka Abbott Trailways in Roanoke VA??
Title: Re: Does anyone know this bus?
Post by: thejumpsuitman on January 19, 2011, 01:28:52 PM
Quote from: Highway Yacht on January 19, 2011, 01:26:37 PM
You don't happen to know the name of the Charter Fleet in Virginia do you??? Could it have been Abbott Bus Lines aka Abbott Trailways in Roanoke VA??

Hi Jimmy,

I can probably find out...  Do you have a connection with them?
Title: Re: Does anyone know this bus?
Post by: Highway Yacht on January 19, 2011, 04:35:09 PM
Quote from: thejumpsuitman on January 19, 2011, 01:28:52 PM
Quote from: Highway Yacht on January 19, 2011, 01:26:37 PM
You don't happen to know the name of the Charter Fleet in Virginia do you??? Could it have been Abbott Bus Lines aka Abbott Trailways in Roanoke VA??

Hi Jimmy,

I can probably find out...  Do you have a connection with them?

Yes I do.. If it was one of their buses, I can put you in contact with the owner and his father. The father really knows the history of their buses. I could have written a book with the info they gave me on mine from everything to when they purchased it, when things were upgraded, painted, engine rebuilt, to you name it... Very good guys.