BCM Community

Bus Discussion => Bus Topics ( click here for quick start! ) => Topic started by: bevans6 on November 12, 2010, 12:19:03 PM

Title: Again I need engine advice - 8V71T industrial?
Post by: bevans6 on November 12, 2010, 12:19:03 PM
OK, so I found, almost literally down the street from me, a brand new, as in factory spare part, 8V71T industrial motor.  I need to know if it can be set up to run in an automotive application.  I have the governor from my engine to swap on if need be.

What do you think?  If I had the engine serial number, can anyone tell me anything about it?

Brian
Title: Re: Again I need engine advice - 8V71T industrial?
Post by: Frank @ TX on November 12, 2010, 12:27:37 PM
Hi Brian,
Some one will answer your question soon.
First you must make sure the engine is the same clock wise or CCW.
Frank
Title: Re: Again I need engine advice - 8V71T industrial?
Post by: TomC on November 12, 2010, 12:57:42 PM
Should work if you swap your automotive governor for the industrial governor.  Also, you'll have to remote mount the turbocharger and possibly enlarge your radiator.  Also maybe run a larger air cleaner and for sure a new exhaust system.  See if you can pop one of the valve covers to see what injectors it is running-for your application and a non aftercooled 8V-71T, should be no larger than 75 injectors.  Sometimes industrial engines will have much larger injectors since they don't run as many hours.  Good Luck, TomC
Title: Re: Again I need engine advice - 8V71T industrial?
Post by: bevans6 on November 12, 2010, 01:05:47 PM
Thanks tom.  The gentleman who has it says it is rated at 350 hp, it is 8VA-393165, model 7083 7395, right hand rotation which should be good for an MCI.  It comes with an 8V71N out of a truck with a 13 speed so  I should have the flywheels and governors from that engine to use if needed.

Brian
Title: Re: Again I need engine advice - 8V71T industrial?
Post by: Don Fairchild on November 12, 2010, 01:18:27 PM
That will be a good engine for you, very little change over.It will depend on the gov. as to weather you need to change it or not.

Don
Title: Re: Again I need engine advice - 8V71T industrial?
Post by: luvrbus on November 12, 2010, 01:56:29 PM
You will have to change the bell housing, back plate and move some drives around to work in a MCI  



good luck
Title: Re: Again I need engine advice - 8V71T industrial?
Post by: bevans6 on November 12, 2010, 02:20:00 PM
thank you.  I feel pretty good about this.  I figure I have all the drives, the bell housing and back plate from my current engine to swap over, so I hope I will be in good shape.  Going to see it tomorrow morning...  can't wait!  Not at all sure what I am going to do with a second (or third if you count my engine in the bus) engine with a 13 speed something on it...   :)

Brian
Title: Re: Again I need engine advice - 8V71T industrial?
Post by: Paso One on November 12, 2010, 02:32:59 PM
Quote from: bevans6 on November 12, 2010, 02:20:00 PM
  Not at all sure what I am going to do with a second (or third if you count my engine in the bus) engine with a 13 speed something on it...   :)

Brian

Well Brian if your shop is big enough it shouldn't be a problem :):)  I have three 6V71's and a  one 8V71 sitting around my shop waiting for whatever I'm gonna do :)
Title: Re: Again I need engine advice - 8V71T industrial?
Post by: bevans6 on November 12, 2010, 03:17:29 PM
you haven't heard about my NEW shop - or shops...   I was back down in Nova Scotia to close on the tatamagouche house just last week.  Two buildings, concrete floors, insulated and heated (if I buy the heating oil, which may never happen), 20 foot ceilings, and 3500 square feet each!  I bet I have indoor parking for 6 buses if I tried!  So exciting!

Title: Re: Again I need engine advice - 8V71T industrial?
Post by: Paso One on November 12, 2010, 03:32:12 PM
Yes I remember your post on the "new Place"  congratulations on the closing.

No problem storing the extra engines then :).

Switch that oil burner to burn WMO ( waste motor oil ) Lots of conversions done successfully.

I have over 2000 gallon storage capacity when I complete my switch over.  perfecting the filtering and mixing capabilites)

Another benefit to changing oil regulaly constant supply :)
Title: Re: Again I need engine advice - 8V71T industrial?
Post by: pvcces on November 12, 2010, 09:28:48 PM
If electricity doesn't run much over a dime a KWH, a modern heat pump will let you heat for around 1/3 the cost of oil. Check them out!

This is for when you don't have enough waste oil to keep your shop warm.

Good luck.

Tom Caffrey
Title: Re: Again I need engine advice - 8V71T industrial?
Post by: oldmansax on November 13, 2010, 03:57:08 AM
Quote from: pvcces on November 12, 2010, 09:28:48 PM
If electricity doesn't run much over a dime a KWH, a modern heat pump will let you heat for around 1/3 the cost of oil. Check them out!

This is for when you don't have enough waste oil to keep your shop warm.

Good luck.

Tom Caffrey

Not in Nova Scotia!

Hey Brian! Would you like some tenants?  We can live in our bus in one of the shops!!!!!!!  LOL ;D ;D
Title: Re: Again I need engine advice - 8V71T industrial?
Post by: bevans6 on November 13, 2010, 04:23:59 AM
Apparently I already have tenants...   I''m at the real estate agent, she says " I can still store my boat there, right..."  "sure no problem, just talk to Dana..."  I go to meet with the insurance agent - "I can still store my boat there, right..."  "Sure, same deal as always, just talk to Dana..."   I go to meet with the lawyer to sign the papers - "I can still store my boat there, right..."  At this point I'm wondering just how many BOATS this place will hold!   ;D

Brian
Title: Re: Again I need engine advice - 8V71T industrial?
Post by: longjohn on November 13, 2010, 04:53:03 AM
Hey Brian, Do i here partial mortgage payment here ;) Keep on with the boats and you will keeping your new engines at the neighbors :D good luck
Title: Re: Again I need engine advice - 8V71T industrial?
Post by: bobofthenorth on November 13, 2010, 05:27:24 AM
Quote from: bevans6 on November 13, 2010, 04:23:59 AM
Apparently I already have tenants...   ........At this point I'm wondering just how many BOATS this place will hold!   ;D

Don't get too excited until you see the rental rates.  When we bought our place east of Nipawin it came with stored cars and snowmobiles belonging to the local Chrysler dealer.  The previous owner was apparently happy with the rates but when I saw what they were paying for covered storage I raised the rates significantly.  So significantly that they moved out shortly afterward.
Title: Re: Again I need engine advice - 8V71T industrial?
Post by: Chopper Scott on November 13, 2010, 07:43:49 AM
I took over a large storage unit this summer that I had been renting a spot for my bus and boat from the previous tenant. He no longer wanted it as the rental rate for the building more than doubled. He had been renting out spaces to several others that stored cars and such in it that I hadn't seen move for 5 years and others that were in and out all the time. I grew really tired of having locked cars blocking the way in and out over the years but had little say in the matter. After I took over I gave them all the boot and now have it filled over the winter with campers plus what I want to store in it. Inside storage out of the winter elements is hard to come by and I basically have a waiting list already wanting to rent a space. I turn down anyone wanting to park cars and such however.
Title: Re: Again I need engine advice - 8V71T industrial?
Post by: luvrbus on November 13, 2010, 08:01:42 AM
Check your local laws, here in AZ nothing can be stored inside with fuel in the tanks for long periods and the landlord has to provide insurance to cover everything stored in the unit it is called a possession law here means the landlord is responsible for all damage while stored in his building sure stopped me from buying some storage units a few years back


good luck
Title: Re: Again I need engine advice - 8V71T industrial?
Post by: Chopper Scott on November 13, 2010, 08:47:00 AM
I make all the campers shut off any propane and disconnect the batteries Cliff. I also got insurance added on it through my business as I run it through there.
Title: Re: Again I need engine advice - 8V71T industrial?
Post by: Ed Hackenbruch on November 13, 2010, 11:34:46 AM
What is considered to be a "long" period of time?  That is a new one for me, never heard of it before.....maybe just your area?
Title: Re: Again I need engine advice - 8V71T industrial?
Post by: luvrbus on November 13, 2010, 12:00:04 PM
Ed, not just my area the whole state you can not even store a lawnmower in a unit (covered) with gas.
The units with power vents some will allow a week some may allow longer it but it is the law in AZ all fuel to be drained and no battery charging inside the units 



good luck