Is it legal to dump grey water on top of the ground? Possibly connect to a pump / garden hose and water the grass. When on the road, is it OK in some palces and not OK in other places? Kenny
Some places it is legal here in the desert the golf course close to the house uses gray water to water the course big signs on every green "DO NOT LICK YOUR BALLS"
good luck
Quote from: luvrbus on September 20, 2010, 07:41:13 AM
Some places it is legal here in the desert the golf course close to the house uses gray water to water the course big signs on every green "DO NOT LICK YOUR BALLS"
good luck
Oh shoot Clifford, that hurt! As I was spitting my coffee everywhere I turned my chair over laughing so hard my sides hurt! ( I was literally ROFLMAO! ;) )
Now I gotta go get a damp rag and wipe off the monitor and every thing else I soaked with coffee!
;D BK ;D
On the left side I have the normal dump valves. On the right side in front of the rear tires I have another dump with slide valve that dumps onto the ground (no hose hookup). If I'm by a street drain, or a dirt lot, can dump the gray water. Very handy. This is the main reason for having a two tank system. My 45 gal black tank goes close to two weeks before we have to dump it. Not so with the gray tank. Good Luck, TomC
Man Clifford, Mom thought I lost it when I spit my coffee over the balcony lol, No towel for me though, Boo is lapping it up right now. Always made me wonder why they sold so much chap stick at the G courses! ;D ;D
Same thing happened yesterday, when we pulled up and saw that Beautiful Blue Eagle for sale on the way to Zion Park ;)
Don't dump anything in a Forest Service CG. You could get cited, FWIW
I intend to put both the stinky slinky type valve and a regular valve onthr new gray tank. That way we can get rid if it anywhere. I know in the state parks and fed parks they will get a little ticked at you fir dumping anything.
Golly Clifford, I almost lost it! :P
We have one tank, and have a diverter for all gray to dump on the ground. I haven't used it because we haven't had the opportunity. I do know it works though! ;)
Quote from: luvrbus on September 20, 2010, 07:41:13 AM
Some places it is legal here in the desert the golf course close to the house uses gray water to water the course big signs on every green "DO NOT LICK YOUR BALLS"
good luck
Clifford i live on the third green, my lot runs right to the concrete cart path so next time i see a golfer wiping his tongue and i am cutting grass I'm blaming the crooked lines on you. ;D ;D Plus diet coke is hard to get off the key board :P
There are quite a few golf courses that use reclaimed, (treated) water from sewage treatment plants. Of course they have to be near a treatment plant to be able to do this. :)
Actually, I think all of the golf courses in the Palm Springs area use recycled water, but that does not mean you can dump untreated gray water. I know that some dry campgrounds allow it, but you probably should ask first. Lots of people try to use some gray water, like from the washing machine to drain onto their lawns or gardens, but it is most likely illegal in coded areas.
Quote from: luvrbus on September 20, 2010, 07:41:13 AM
Some places it is legal here in the desert the golf course close to the house uses gray water to water the course big signs on every green "DO NOT LICK YOUR BALLS"
good luck
Are you kidding me? You are kidding me, right? I am scratching parts of myself that I have not seen in at least five years, but licking them, well, you are kidding me, aren't you?
BCO
We installed a diverter valve for our shower. Since the shower is the largest producer of grey water, diverting it almost triples our TBD (time between dumps). We stay quite a bit at friends and fellow busnuts places and most allow us to dump our shower water. We alway ask first. Jack
So could one legally pull into a rest area and simply water the grass or being parked over a street storm drain simply drop a hose and let it go? How does one know when and where it is legal to do this? Or does one just be decrete about it? Kenny
Some rest areas have rv dumps, use those. Some cities and towns are very strict about what goes into storm drains, could be big fines if caught! If in doubt don't do it, better yet just find an rv dump somewhere and never have to worry about it.
Kenny, I have no idea where you live but I see signs in rest areas in west TX where they ask you to use the gray water for the grass.
A city owned RV park in Iraan Tx ask you do the same to keep cost down they need it 12 bucks a night for 50 amp service ,cable,water and sewer that is cheap along with being a very nice park think about it saves water
I am sure big brother in some areas would not allow it, this will start a good one but I carry a manhole lid hook with me and have just pulled the cover at W/M and dumped done it for years
I really don't accomplished much as then I need water anyway 95% of the W/Ms will let you fill if you ask the guys in the TBA section
good luck.
We have stayed at campgrounds that don't have sewer connections a couple of times where the travel trailer next to us opened their grey water valve slightly to drain on the ground. No hose to get the water away from the unit. The last time was in June. The trailer had a family of two adults and four kids so there was a lot of water going on the ground. The temperature was in the low 90s during the day and man did that grey water stink. If we encounter that situation again we will either move, or if there are no other sites available, we will leave the campground. You have to understand that the grey water in this situation did not soak away or evaporate because we had the wetest summer on record here. In the desert I wouldn't expect to have the same problem. Personally, I choose not to dump grey water anywhere other than a sewer. YMMV
Good luck, Sam MC8
Spreading it over a large & unused area (where it can evaporate quickly or soak into the ground) might work, but if it stays wet & on the surface, the odors can be awful. There are valid reasons why it is not encouraged in crowded areas.
Discharging grey water on the ground in the campsite is nasty. Anyone who has experienced being on the down hill side understands from experience.
Far too many are inconsiderate of their fellow camper- be it a neighbor or the next guy to use the site after you leave.
I probably won't say anything about someone using a garden hose to drain it into the bushes, ditch, woods, etc.
However, I will not tolerate someone dumping their grey water in such a way that it runs thru my camp site. (I'll move or put a stop to it - or both. ;) )
It is best to dump in an approved dump site with the fee getting higher each day I am afraid you will see more and more illegal dumping, very few rest area have dumping now because of the toxic haulers dumping there what a shame not long ever rest area in NM and Texas had dump station now only a very few and they have cameras on those.In our travels this summer we noticed some of the National and state owned campgrounds had dump stations with a 5 dollar fee all about the money they never had fees before
good luck
Quote from: kyle4501
I probably won't say anything about someone using a garden hose to drain it into the bushes, ditch, woods, etc.
However, I will not tolerate someone dumping their grey water in such a way that it runs thru my camp site. (I'll move or put a stop to it - or both. ;) )
Hmm, just have yer daughter reroute it into their fresh water! ;)
;D BK ;D
This is my set up to divert shower water:
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I works real good and I can reach the hose to out of the way places. I just have to turn off the big red handled ball valve and turn open the small, black hose valve. It only diverts shower water. I can't say that I have ever smelled anything bad after I used it, even if I was there for awhile. Might be that it never gets stagnate before it's absorbed.
Just thought I'd share.
Chaz
It is relevant to remember that gray water is contaminated water. I have heard of gray water recycling systems for homes that water the garden with buried pipes so the contaminants are not on the surface. If you use gray water to surface irrigate some plants, at least you can justify it by saying the water is of use and will dissipate quickly. If you just dump gray water on the ground, it creates a sewer situation, not a black water sewer, but one still well populated with bacteria, etc. It really can be a health hazard for yourself and others. You wouldn't want to be near a pool of hospital gray water. Anyone's could be just as bad.
we try to be considerate of our neighbors anywhere we might dump, and we have dripped grey out on long stays, like flywheeler's in florida. you can also drip out in orlando at the fair grounds, per the rally instructions. we have dumped in out of the way places like barnyards, but walmart's and malls we don't usually do, unless we really need to and it's raining pretty hard to wash it away. $5 ain't much for a black dump. flying J has signs posted for $10, which i would gladly pay if i don't fill up and needed to dump.
dumping while next to someone, or dripping heavily. no way would i do it or tolerate it.
That's why i have mine set up with a garden hose. I can let it drain in spaces where it 99.9999% of the time won't hurt anyone/anything, and possibly even help the vegetation. Just makes sense and I'm sure it is fine in most situations as long as people are respectful and "think". It's the dumb*ss's that ruin it for all.
People just need to "care".
Chaz
okay , on the lighter side sounds like a good source of water for you guys who have a engine heating problem and run a radiator mister system.
Just run a diverter valve to your pump, all the coolant you need, plus probably no tailgaters if you crank up the flow!!!! ;D
ED
Quote from: Ed Brenner on September 21, 2010, 07:40:24 PM
okay , on the lighter side sounds like a good source of water for you guys who have a engine heating problem and run a radiator mister system.
Just run a diverter valve to your pump, all the coolant you need, plus probably no tailgaters if you crank up the flow!!!! ;D
ED
Ed,
Might sound like a good source at first, but not sure I'd want it around my radiators!
And I dang sure hope I never have to work on it after using it on a good hot day! PEE-EW ;)
;D BK ;D