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Title: Giving up the bus dream
Post by: belfert on September 13, 2010, 07:13:29 PM
I think I'm just going to try to sell my bus after my hassles this year.  I'm supposed to leave on vacation a week from tomorrow, but I still have 100 hours of work to do and maybe 20 hours to do it all.

I don't think I will make it.  No point in having a bus if I can't at least make one trip a year in it.
Title: Re: Giving up the bus dream
Post by: larryh on September 13, 2010, 07:17:23 PM
Belfert,

Lack of prior planning on your part does not constitute a emergency on my part.
Title: Re: Giving up the bus dream
Post by: Busted Knuckle on September 13, 2010, 07:21:53 PM
Quote from: belfert
I think I'm just going to try to sell my bus after my hassles this year.

Well Brian,
Hate to see you give up. But you'll have to make that decision!

Quote from: belfert
I'm supposed to leave on vacation a week from tomorrow, but I still have 100 hours of work to do and maybe 20 hours to do it all.

I don't think I will make it.  No point in having a bus if I can't at least make one trip a year in it.


I can't say I'm surprised! You go through this every year you wait until late in the spring or summer to start on a project that you way under estimate the time or $ it will take to do, then toward the deadline you get discouraged about it.
I remember telling you earlier this year not to wait to start for this very reason.

Just stop and look at the progress you've made, the projects you've done and the $ spent. Then take a look at what buses are bringing right now.
I'd think long and hard before trying to sell right now!
;D  BK  ;D
Title: Re: Giving up the bus dream
Post by: happycamperbrat on September 13, 2010, 07:29:58 PM
What needs to be done? Is it undrivable or something?
Title: Re: Giving up the bus dream
Post by: robertglines1 on September 13, 2010, 07:36:30 PM
You have a modern bus.are suffering from burn out..go on vacation and think about it..then make your decision..all of us have the same thoughts..It's a lot of work! but what a reward when someone admires your work!!  Bob
Title: Re: Giving up the bus dream
Post by: belfert on September 13, 2010, 08:01:54 PM
Quote from: robertglines1 on September 13, 2010, 07:36:30 PM
You have a modern bus.are suffering from burn out..go on vacation and think about it..then make your decision..all of us have the same thoughts..It's a lot of work! but what a reward when someone admires your work!!  Bob

I don't have a vehicle to go on vacation with.  The bus is the vehicle I was planning to use.

The bus is completely undriveable as it sits.  The dash has no gauges hooked up, the ignition isn't hooked up, and I still have a connector under the dash I can't find the mate for.  I'm going to head back out and see what I can get done in the next half hour or so.
Title: Re: Giving up the bus dream
Post by: ruthi on September 13, 2010, 08:02:01 PM
Brian,hate to see you give it up. You are the only other Dina person we know of. Dont take the decision to give it up lightly. I know you have invested a lot of time in your bus, and if you make a hasty decision, you may regret it later. For most, bus conversion is a dream, a project to work on, and a love for it. If you dont have that, then, a bus nut you aint, lol. We happen to have become a bus nut by accident, and love it, but ours is not just a project,although it has been a blast all things considered,  it is what helps us earn our money. I truly dont think we would still be doing the job we do if we didnt have a bus to do it with. Anyhow, only you can decide what you want to do. If you are tired of it, or lost interest, then giving up would be the thing to do. But, if you are only upset with yourself, it will be even worse if a hasty, regretful decision is made. Take care
Title: Re: Giving up the bus dream
Post by: gumpy on September 13, 2010, 08:07:15 PM
Quote from: belfert on September 13, 2010, 07:13:29 PM
I think I'm just going to try to sell my bus after my hassles this year.  I'm supposed to leave on vacation a week from tomorrow, but I still have 100 hours of work to do and maybe 20 hours to do it all.

I don't think I will make it.  No point in having a bus if I can't at least make one trip a year in it.

Oh, is it that time of year already?  My how time does fly any more. Seems like only last week you were thinking of selling your bus the last time you couldn't complete a project in time for
your annual trip. We could almost set our watches.  ::)

Seriously, hack it together, go have fun, and fix it correctly when you get back.

Title: Re: Giving up the bus dream
Post by: Ace on September 13, 2010, 08:15:52 PM
If it were me, and I know it's not, but just an observation, I think I would have put more effort into fixing what issues you had to complete with the bus rather than spend your time on a trailer. Think about it, you NEED the bus to pull the trailer. With the bus NOT running for whatever reason/s what good is it to spend valuable time on the trailer?
Doesn't sound right to me but like others have stated, every year around the time you decide to leave on your annual trip, you get bummed out and want to give up!  I would say set your priorities and do them in a more practical order. I DO remember BK telling you or advising you NOT to strip your dash apart for THIS reason. I did mine and that was my ONLY priority to get it back IN the bus, because without it, I had nothing more than a yard knome just as you do now!
I wish you the best...
Title: Re: Giving up the bus dream
Post by: belfert on September 13, 2010, 08:31:15 PM
If I don't end up taking the bus on my trip this year I am going to give up on the whole thing.  Too much effort for zero return.  Whatever little bit I can sell it for is a bonus.

I had to give up for tonight as there isn't enough light to find one of the connectors.  I need some daylight.
Title: Re: Giving up the bus dream
Post by: TomC on September 13, 2010, 09:35:04 PM
I bought my bus in 1993, brought it down to L.A. (from Portland, Or) in 1994 and started on it.  In 1995, I went to the Bus Conversion get together in Laughlin, Nv (great get together!!) with only my bed and bathroom in.  When I got back, I put the bus back up on blocks and didn't use it again until almost done in 1999.  Sometimes during construction, you just have to accept that you can't use it for awhile (I never could see how some use their bus during conversion).  Keep plugging along, and before you know it, it will suddenly be done (or at least usable).  Good Luck, TomC
Title: Re: Giving up the bus dream
Post by: txjeff on September 14, 2010, 05:40:09 AM
Brian

I thought PROCRASTINATION and A.D.D. were part of the madness. :o Seems like every time I plan a trip I start a project with plenty of time to finish it, then while working on it I see something else that need to be done. I end up with a week to finish everything and start thinking its not gonna happen. My wife just laughs and tells me to have it ready for the trip. Somehow in the end it all comes together and the bus is usable. I guess for me it all part of the fun of being a Busnut. ;D

Jeff
Title: Re: Giving up the bus dream
Post by: kyle4501 on September 14, 2010, 05:52:07 AM
Yep, looks like it is that time for the same old story, only thing different is the year itself.

If the bus wasn't ready, why take on the trailer project?  - which ended up costing as much as a ready to go trailer plus the time away from the bus. . . .
Why take on non essential 'upgrades' to the bus so close to time to leave for a trip?

Loss of day light is a predictable event in the evenings. There is a neat invention called flood lights, you might want to look into some.  :o

It ain't 'the bus', it is 'the planning' (or lack thereof).  :o


BTW, dreams aren't always sweet, sometimes they are nightmares. But you usually wake up . . . . .
Title: Re: Giving up the bus dream
Post by: happycamperbrat on September 14, 2010, 06:41:10 AM
I would help you if I could, but Im in California. Try your best to get it driveable and then go have fun with it. Dont worry about the cosmetics LIFE IS TOO SHORT. And yes, at night when I work on my bus I have to use a long extention cord and light. And I have a couple flashlights out there for those hard to reach spots (like under your dash).
Title: Re: Giving up the bus dream
Post by: muddog16 on September 14, 2010, 06:56:28 AM
Brian if I remember correctly you were advised against doing some of these jobs before you started them!  I did a little checking, you've spent about 40 days time (24 hours each day) mostly between the hours of 10am and 10pm,on this board instead of working, those are all daylight hours!  It seems to me your time management is off way more than it should be, especially when you are putting yourself in the target zone of vacation time! 

I brought my bus home more than 5 years ago and started this, i've been frustrated at times, filthy, dirty and rather upset with my conversion, I've never been to a bus gathering, vacation or even a short trip in my bus!  Look we all love busing!  It's what you decide for yourself are you going to be happy or give up everytime you shoot yourself in the foot?  You've come a long way......don't stop now!

When you paint a room don't back yourself into a corner.   It's your decision whether you are going to be miserable or content!  Good luck!
Title: Re: Giving up the bus dream
Post by: rv_safetyman on September 14, 2010, 07:33:39 AM
Brian, it seems that many folks are second guessing your time allocation.  That is not productive here. 

We all approach a project(s) differently.  I am very much like you.  I seem to back myself into a corner at times and get really frustrated.  Like you, I have wanted to sell my bus many times.  People tell you to "get your act together", but it is not that simple.  Folks like us just have some character "flaw" that makes us do things the way we do.  It is really frustrating to me, as I was the project leader on many large projects at work.  I really made good use of manual and software programs for time management of the project and prided myself in doing a good job.  *****BUT***** when it came to my personal projects, it was a whole different story.

Of all the input you have gotten, I think the best is throw it back together and go have fun.  It sounds like to need to step back from working on the bus and get on the road.

One of my thoughts is that you always furnish the bus for your friends (and your) enjoyment.  It strikes me that they owe you.  Call in the "markers" and tell them they need to get their butts over to your place and help you.  If they can build rockets they sure as hell can work on a bus!!!!

HANG IN THERE!!!!!

Jim

Title: Re: Giving up the bus dream
Post by: ruthi on September 14, 2010, 08:37:50 AM
Very good advice Jim. ;D
Title: Re: Giving up the bus dream
Post by: John Z on September 14, 2010, 08:55:31 AM
Jim, i think you have nailed it!
Title: Re: Giving up the bus dream
Post by: RickB on September 14, 2010, 09:27:58 AM
Brian,

I may have a little time to come over and help... let me know if you need me. I also have a couple of mechanic friends who may be willing to help but I'm reluctant to ask them because us busnuts have a tendency to do it our way and we aren't the kindest when giving direction.



Let me know

rick
Title: Re: Giving up the bus dream
Post by: Busted Knuckle on September 14, 2010, 09:33:40 AM
Quote from: RickB on September 14, 2010, 09:27:58 AM
Brian,

I may have a little time to come over and help... let me know if you need me. I also have a couple of mechanic friends who may be willing to help but I'm reluctant to ask them because us busnuts have a tendency to do it our way and we aren't the kindest when giving direction.
Let me know

rick

Is that what it is? Now I know! I been accused of being pig headed and stubborn many times before when telling how I want this or that done! ;)
;D  BK  ;D
Title: Re: Giving up the bus dream
Post by: happycamperbrat on September 14, 2010, 10:42:55 AM
haha!! Just by the simple act of dreaming of a bus conversion and actually putting down hard earned ca$h for a bus, we have proven ourselves to be "pig headed, stubborn, and of unsound mind" otherwise we would do as the masses and buy a S&S. It takes a special kind of person to even attempt something like this
Title: Re: Giving up the bus dream
Post by: FloridaCliff on September 14, 2010, 11:40:38 AM
Quote from: happycamperbrat on September 14, 2010, 10:42:55 AM
It takes a special kind of person to even attempt something like this

Of course you mean "Special" in the "Short Bus" way......right!  ;)

Cliff
Title: Re: Giving up the bus dream
Post by: Ericbsc on September 14, 2010, 12:49:16 PM
I bought my bus in 2000. We drove it around for a few months, then stripped it. It never saw the road again until October of 2009. Then we had limited accommodations!! The boss said no more travel with a cardboard bathroom. I hit it hard this winter and this spring we went to Savannah, Charleston, and Dayton beach for spring break, then to Mississippi. Looking back I should have never used those four feared words ( WHILE WERE AT IT). Probably added years to the project. But the feeling of accomplishment the first time we pulled out was the ultimate high. I am one of those people who will start a project and work Thur. the night because I can't stand to see something not finished. This hobby will break you from that!! My advice after a 10 year journey is do what you can today, don't look forward at all the work to do. Don't look back constantly at what you have done!!! One day you will look up and be amazed at what you did!!! Best of luck!
Title: Re: Giving up the bus dream
Post by: happycamperbrat on September 14, 2010, 01:40:43 PM
QuoteOf course you mean "Special" in the "Short Bus" way......right! 

Cliff

You do realize you are talkin to a girl who calls a graphic of a toy rocking airplane her "corporate jet" haha  ;)
Title: Re: Giving up the bus dream
Post by: Busted Knuckle on September 14, 2010, 04:38:06 PM
Quote from: happycamperbrat on September 14, 2010, 01:40:43 PM
QuoteOf course you mean "Special" in the "Short Bus" way......right! 

Cliff

You do realize you are talkin to a girl who calls a graphic of a toy rocking airplane her "corporate jet" haha  ;)

Do you realize the "corporate" your talking about would love to have one of those just to say they have a "corporate jet" ! ;)
;D  BK  ;D
Title: Re: Giving up the bus dream
Post by: Christyhicks on September 14, 2010, 04:48:07 PM
Well, I gotta tell you. . Larry STILL violates the "two week rule"..   .you know, the one that says you are NOT ALLOWED to start any repairs or major projects less than two weeks before a planned trip!!!!

It's really my fault though, because when he asks me, "now, how much time do I have before we leave". . .  like a fool. . .I tell the TRUTH ::).  From now on, I'm going to lie and say "two weeks", when it's really four, and then plead SUCH a busy schedule I just got confused. . . .  ???

And, yes, we often do have problems with time management. . . like, for instance, right now I should be working on payroll and getting caught up with paperwork. .. (since I spent THE ENTIRE DAY shopping for the infamous "discount funeral package",) but what am I doing??? I'm goofing on here while eating dinner!  Personally, I don't get on the bus sites as often as I'd like, and I think that the time spent here, whether it's griping, or telling some boring story, is a form of therapy and is an outlet for frustration, giving us a sense of community.  I know, often when I write about some embarrassing or crazy thing that happens, people will write and say how the EXACT SAME THING HAPPENED TO US!  This is how I KNOW that there are other inept, crazy, goofballs out there just as silly as we are!

I say, go ahead and gripe and threaten to sell the bus. . .that is, if you can then go back out and get back to working on it!  Course, if you think your frustrations will end when you get it "done", well, all I have to say is, HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHA



HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHHAHAHAHA


ahem :-[

Christy Hicks ;D
Title: Re: Giving up the bus dream
Post by: Busted Knuckle on September 14, 2010, 04:56:18 PM
Well said Christy!

Brian,
Bro I hope you don't think I was picking on you. I wasn't, but if you go back and look it is the same every time this time of yr.
I wish I were closer and could offer more assistance, but I don't.
I do know there are great minds and hands closer too you that have offered help. You should call them up make arrangement and let them help you!
I also think that yer rocket scientist buddies should make some time to jump in and help you to after all you spend a lot of $ and time making this possible so that you all can make this trip annually! It ain't like they can't find some time to help out!
FWIW ;D  BK  ;D
Title: Re: Giving up the bus dream
Post by: cody on September 14, 2010, 05:15:48 PM
Discount funeral packages?  Walmart has not only caskets but urns on their web site, libby pointed that out to me,,,,wonder what she was trying to tell me.  We have a funeral director here that has a slogan on his cards that says, "we work hard to URN your business".
Title: Re: Giving up the bus dream
Post by: Dreamscape on September 14, 2010, 05:21:32 PM
Chritsy, Go on down to Granger TX and check this guy out. He beat WM to it!


(https://busconversionmagazine.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi363.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Foo78%2FDreamscape_Eagle%2FRandom%2FGranger2010017.jpg&hash=88cbdfc85adf5222397f44319f1e47e0edeea927)
Title: Re: Giving up the bus dream
Post by: John Z on September 14, 2010, 05:23:17 PM
Brian, maybe if you don't provide the bus transportation for your buddies this year, then they will get off the couch and help out.
Title: Re: Giving up the bus dream
Post by: happycamperbrat on September 14, 2010, 05:26:19 PM
QuoteDo you realize the "corporate" your talking about would love to have one of those just to say they have a "corporate jet" !
  BK 

That just shows Im in GOOD company with my kinda people  ;) :D ;D Eat your heart out  :P
Title: Re: Giving up the bus dream
Post by: wal1809 on September 14, 2010, 05:40:29 PM
Ouch!!!  A couple if y'all are hitting the poor guy in his ding ding!  I say walk away from it for a while then get back at it.  I experienced the same thing when I bought my first rent house and I wanted to quit.  It took 1.5 years to completely gut it including stripping the floors, completely rewiring, all new plumbing, Sheetrock and seemingly on and on.  The only interior that remained was the studs in the entire house.  Halfway through I went outside and seriously quesion why I would take on a project like that with no help at all.  I was broken down and ready to quit.  After leaving it alone for a while I picked my arse up off the ground and told myself "one nail at a time".  

Ow fir the funny part.  My real motivation came in a different form.  My mother in law was going to rent it from us when it was completed.  She ended her lease for the time I told her I would be done.  Well I missed the deadline and she had to move in with us until I completed the house.  The moral is there ain't no motivation like having your mother in law living with you.  

OP. I say walk away amd get a fresh start in thr morning.  The only way through is to bull your way through it!!!
Title: Re: Giving up the bus dream
Post by: Mex-Busnut on September 14, 2010, 05:58:00 PM
Quote from: wal1809 on September 14, 2010, 05:40:29 PM
The moral is there ain't no motivation like having your mother in law living with you.
My Mexican friends say:

Q: Why do mother-in-laws exist?
A: Because the devil cannot be everywhere at once! ;D
Title: Re: Giving up the bus dream
Post by: Christyhicks on September 14, 2010, 06:09:33 PM
Well, you know, a lot of states, Oklahoma included, won't let you buy your own casket from an online retailer. . you have to purchase it from a licensed funeral home. . .now why do you think that is????

Actually, I joke about the whole thing, but I'm glad we convinced Larry's dad to make the arrangements now, as he is all about saving money (hence the actual question about whether we could haul their caskets in our own vehicles!?!), which relieves us of the conflict between being "cheap" and spending excess amounts of money on something that will never been seen again.  I mean. . . you pay a bunch of money for a wedding dress, and maybe your daughter could wear it some day, but you know, I'm just not sure I want to "wear" someone elses'. . . well, you get my drift, ha ha.

We did find a guy that was extremely reasonable, and then down the road, a really honest monument store, and as it was, the funeral director is the son of a pastor that DeWayne used to know, so that was kind of neat too. . considering how big OKC is, that was a nice surprise!

So, Brian, what do you think now?  Surely you wouldn't consider EVER selling your bus, as then you'd miss the companionship of lots of REALLY WIERD people like us!!!!!  Isn't that alone worth the effort?!?!?!?  tee hee, Christy Hicks
Title: Re: Giving up the bus dream
Post by: cody on September 14, 2010, 06:19:19 PM
Now if libby would stop sneaking up on me with the ax. ::)
Title: Re: Giving up the bus dream
Post by: Singing Land Cruiser on September 14, 2010, 06:39:57 PM
Hello all, belfert   ;D
Your Bus is all you make of it. Some take 10 years to complete it but enjoy the ride and some enjoy the ride and take 10 years to complete it. Your Bus is your Bus! You make it your own with its own personality. Don't give up now! GET YOUR BUS TO THE NEXT RALLY. All the Best to you sir ;D
Michael & Christi Hargis
Title: Re: Giving up the bus dream
Post by: artvonne on September 15, 2010, 03:30:14 AM
Quote from: Christyhicks on September 14, 2010, 06:09:33 PM
(hence the actual question about whether we could haul their caskets in our own vehicles!?!)

  The large cago bays on an intercity bus do offer some odd possibilities, but thats one I hadnt thought of.
Title: Re: Giving up the bus dream
Post by: Christyhicks on September 15, 2010, 03:33:47 AM
Oh man, had't thought of that, could haul them BOTH at once!  C.
Title: Re: Giving up the bus dream
Post by: cody on September 15, 2010, 04:39:11 AM
I think I pointed something like that out several years ago, I want to be buried in my bus, it's got 3 handles on the bays on each side, now all I need are 6 really strong pallbearers.
Title: Re: Giving up the bus dream
Post by: kyle4501 on September 15, 2010, 05:30:50 AM
Quote from: cody on September 15, 2010, 04:39:11 AM
I think I pointed something like that out several years ago, I want to be buried in my bus, it's got 3 handles on the bays on each side, now all I need are 6 really strong pallbearers.

Gives new meaning to the phrase "Ashes to ashes & rust to rust."  ;D
Title: Re: Giving up the bus dream
Post by: wal1809 on September 15, 2010, 06:17:28 AM
Quote from: kyle4501 on September 15, 2010, 05:30:50 AM
Quote from: cody on September 15, 2010, 04:39:11 AM
I think I pointed something like that out several years ago, I want to be buried in my bus, it's got 3 handles on the bays on each side, now all I need are 6 really strong pallbearers.

Gives new meaning to the phrase "Ashes to ashes & rust to rust."  ;D

Hey Hey Hey!  That sounds like the beginning of an Eagle crack to me :o
Title: Re: Giving up the bus dream
Post by: cody on September 15, 2010, 06:19:09 AM
Wal, it's ok, kyle has scenics, he's got enough problems now lol.
Title: Re: Giving up the bus dream
Post by: kyle4501 on September 15, 2010, 07:34:57 AM
Quote from: cody on September 15, 2010, 06:19:09 AM
Wal, it's ok, kyle has scenics, he's got enough problems now lol.

;D   8)
Title: Re: Giving up the bus dream
Post by: wal1809 on September 15, 2010, 07:40:18 AM
Whew I thought for a minute we were gonna have to have a bus throw down ;D
Title: Re: Giving up the bus dream
Post by: cody on September 15, 2010, 07:42:33 AM
Can't do that Wal, iggles don't have air bags lol.
Title: Re: Giving up the bus dream
Post by: Van on September 15, 2010, 08:00:34 AM
Real Eagles don't have air bags :D ;D ;D ;D ( Here we go again ;D) LOL!
Title: Re: Giving up the bus dream
Post by: Dreamscape on September 15, 2010, 08:01:56 AM
I have felt that sometimes I want to give up too. But after a while I realize that it has been my dream for a long time to do this. I just didn't realize that it would take so darn long! ::)

I think a lot of us go through the same feelings. We make plans for a trip then realize there is a lot to do before we can head out. I try my best to make a list then tackle it according to priority. Sometimes things get moved up or down depending on how I feel. The list I started back in 03 has gotten longer, but I have crossed off a lot of items, then added some. You never know when you start a project how it will go, I try to double the time in my head then go for it! ;D I have kept every tablet I made notes on and there are a bunch of them. It's all fun!

Case in point. We are heading out on Sep. 29 for Durant OK for the Texas Bus Roundup (I know OK, my wife reminds me of that almost daily ::)), then to the Eagle Rally in Branson on Oct 5, then to Christy's rally on Oct 8th. A little over 1230 miles, roundtrip. I have been doing a pre trip and inspecting everything I can think of. The rally is two weeks away and I figure that we will be ready. We always try to keep the coach ready, but after it sitting for a while I check everything anyway. The birds nest I had on our camera pod is gone, little critter homes have been eliminated, 6 new tires and most important of all, tank is full of fuel!

Belfert, take some time to get done what you can then go for it! Do not let your dream die, if you do you will never know the great experiences you could have had. Get some help, as others have suggested. You will look back on this oneday and be glad you did!

Living the dream,

Paul
Title: Re: Giving up the bus dream
Post by: wal1809 on September 15, 2010, 08:04:19 AM
Quote from: van on September 15, 2010, 08:00:34 AM
Real Eagles don't have air bags :D ;D ;D ;D ( Here we go again ;D) LOL!

Some would say "Das how we roll" ;)
Title: Re: Giving up the bus dream
Post by: wal1809 on September 15, 2010, 08:05:35 AM
Quote from: Dreamscape on September 15, 2010, 08:01:56 AM
I have felt that sometimes I want to give up too. But after a while I realize that it has been my dream for a long time to do this. I just didn't realize that it would take so darn long! ::)

I think a lot of us go through the same feelings. We make plans for a trip then realize there is a lot to do before we can head out. I try my best to make a list then tackle it according to priority. Sometimes things get moved up or down depending on how I feel. The list I started back in 03 has gotten longer, but I have crossed off a lot of items, then added some. You never know when you start a project how it will go, I try to double the time in my head then go for it! ;D I have kept every tablet I made notes on and there are a bunch of them. It's all fun!

Case in point. We are heading out on Sep. 29 for Durant OK for the Texas Bus Roundup (I know OK, my wife reminds me of that almost daily ::)), then to the Eagle Rally in Branson on Oct 5, then to Christy's rally on Oct 8th. A little over 1230 miles, roundtrip. I have been doing a pre trip and inspecting everything I can think of. The rally is two weeks away and I figure that we will be ready. We always try to keep the coach ready, but after it sitting for a while I check everything anyway. The birds nest I had on our camera pod is gone, little critter homes have been eliminated, 6 new tires and most important of all, tank is full of fuel!

Belfert, take some time to get done what you can then go for it! Do not let your dream die, if you do you will never know the great experiences you could have had. Get some help, as others have suggested. You will look back on this oneday and be glad you did!

Living the dream,

Paul

I am with you on this one Paul!  It is living the dream.  It aint easy nor is it what we expected but it is kewl!!
Title: Re: Giving up the bus dream
Post by: cody on September 15, 2010, 08:08:43 AM
I started mine in 2002, I never got to the point where the first interior was finished when libby found my stash of rosewood, now I'm neck deep into my 2nd remodel with mahogany maybe i'll get this one finished before she spots my stash of old chestnut or cherry lol.
Title: Re: Giving up the bus dream
Post by: luvrbus on September 15, 2010, 08:21:38 AM
Brian, there is a unwritten law when it involves buses and boats that is "WHAT CAN GO WRONG WILL" follow Jim's and Craig's advice go for it nothing has changed from last year and the trip was ok for you



good luck
Title: Re: Giving up the bus dream
Post by: Van on September 15, 2010, 08:27:24 AM
Brian, I for one hope you do make it ;) Like you, we also look forward to that one trip ( Quartzsite) a year. The first year the engine gave up, the second year we finally made it, this Jan we will give it another shot, it's always a crap shoot in the final weeks. Wish I was close by to lend a hand with the wiring. Get what ever you need done to make the ol' girl operational ( safely) and hit the Road. LOL! 4 more days sheesh! piece of cake! you can do it! Go make it happen Brudda! :D Good luck

Never kick a man
when he is down ;)

  Van :)
Title: Re: Giving up the bus dream
Post by: cody on September 15, 2010, 08:30:44 AM
Van, I've learned that the best time to kick somebody is when they're down, I can't outrun them if they're not.
Title: Re: Giving up the bus dream
Post by: Van on September 15, 2010, 09:18:31 AM
 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Giving up the bus dream
Post by: Busted Knuckle on September 15, 2010, 09:21:28 AM
Quote from: van on September 15, 2010, 08:00:34 AM
Real Eagles don't have air bags :D ;D ;D ;D ( Here we go again ;D) LOL!

What Sonny's Eagle ain't a real Eagle?
;D  BK  ;D
Title: Re: Giving up the bus dream
Post by: Van on September 15, 2010, 02:38:31 PM
 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Giving up the bus dream
Post by: PSmith on September 15, 2010, 09:00:29 PM
Brian,
I always set goals using an event or short trip as incentive to 'get it done by'.  It has worked for 13 years for me and still is..    We're taking off in a couple of weeks for bus vacation to Mo. and back--- I've had to get things done for the trip.

It works for me to have a deadline.

Hang in there. 

What used to be a goal of finishing has turned into a goal of refining and fixing the 'quickie' things I've done to it.   Used to go to the BCC's until I realized that each time I went, I came home wanting to REMODEL THE DAMN THING....

You can do it.
Title: Re: Giving up the bus dream
Post by: Len Silva on September 16, 2010, 06:57:52 AM
Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good - Voltaire
Title: Re: Giving up the bus dream
Post by: RickB on September 16, 2010, 08:03:07 AM
Brian,

Being that we haven't weard a peep out of you since this post started I thinking either:

A. You're working your butt off on your bus

B. You got offended by some of the more agressive posts regarding your situation.

If it's A that's awesome...

If it's B, take a big breath, step away from the ledge and realize that although we don't ahow it so well sometimes, we genuinely care about your well being and your bus headaches.

Heck, it isn't like we havne't all been where you are at times.

I'm 15 minutes away with a truckload of tools if you need me.

RB
Title: Re: Giving up the bus dream
Post by: ruthi on September 17, 2010, 10:36:38 AM
Hey Brian, I hope it is that you are working on the bus too.
Title: Re: Giving up the bus dream
Post by: Sam 4106 on September 17, 2010, 12:55:35 PM
Some of us, me, have had to give up our bus project. It wasn't the end of the world, although it may have seemed like it at the time. I understand the frustration of having to throw in the towel. We still had a useable bus after giving up on our project and thought we would have to give that up as well. Three years after selling our project bus we found our current bus by coincidence. We bought it and with my wife doing more of the driving than me we continue to bus. An added benefit to our current bus is that it gives me something to work on when I'm able. It may not be as satisfying as doing one from scratch would have been, but you do what you have to do sometimes. So Brian, if you have actually given up your bus dream, for now, it doesn't mean you have given up busing forever. You will eventually get over the disappointment and move forward.
Good luck, Sam MC8
Title: Re: Giving up the bus dream
Post by: belfert on September 17, 2010, 05:44:18 PM
I finally got my bus over to C&J Bus Repair today to get my yearly oil change and service.  I was supposed to be there Thursday and changed to Friday a few days ago and was still an hour and a half late.  I was up at 6 am finishing the last few things to make the bus driveable.  It still is not ready for a 4,00 mile trip quite yet.

I burned up a lot of midnight oil this week getting everything put back together.  I was totally stressed out Monday and Tuesday.

I'm still thinking about selling the bus even though it looks like I will be going on my trip.  I'll have to talk to my friends when we get back to see what their thoughts are.  At a minimum I'm going to park my bus when I get home and not touch it at all next summer except to use it.  (I've been thinking about this for a few weeks already.)

I still do need to get a trailer brake controller installed this weekend, but the weather is supposed to be decent enough to get that done.
Title: Re: Giving up the bus dream
Post by: bobofthenorth on September 17, 2010, 05:54:14 PM
I guess if you didn't want advice Brian you wouldn't have made the initial posting.  FWIW my opinion is you should use it and enjoy it.  There's a list a mile long of things I'd like to do to the frenchy-bus but nothing other than ongoing maintenance is a MUST DO item.  I have the utmost respect for those people, some of them on this forum and some of them elsewhere, who have the tenacity to actually build a bus from scratch.  I respect them but no way in hell do I want to be them.  We bought our bus "completed" which still left me lots of room to do things.  I absolutely love puttering when I don't have a deadline.  I don't even particularly mind time sensitive repairs or maintenance but it would drive me nuts to see a nice day going by while I was completing a project that had gone way over schedule.  I can understand your frustration but I think the cure for it is to use the bus.

Title: Re: Giving up the bus dream
Post by: Ace on September 17, 2010, 06:02:20 PM
Brian a word of caution and or advice. If you think you have issues with your bus now, and then you decide to let it sit without touching it you will have more problems you will ever know. Use the bus finished or not. DON'T let it sit!
Title: Re: Giving up the bus dream
Post by: edvanland on September 18, 2010, 10:13:56 AM
We started out on our anual two weeks to lake powell on Labor day and 50 miles from home blew the engine. Call AAA and they towed the bus to Geoff house. We then loaded a lot of stuff out of the bus and went on to lake powell. Had already pulled our 24 trailer there so we sent Teusday conveting the trailer into a camper we then proceded on having a ball with friends and family. Yes in case you are wandering the bus overheated. No where to pull off on I 17 so it was one of those aw@#@@#@ times.
Never give up on a dream because as we get older that is what we have to live for. I don't want to leave this earth till I have done everything I ever wanted to do.
ED
Title: Re: Giving up the bus dream
Post by: Van on September 18, 2010, 12:35:09 PM
Tough break Ed, sorry to hear this, been there done that, got the t-shirt, hope it is not as bad as you describe. We were just in the area yesterday. Best of luck to both of you fellas. Van
Title: Re: Giving up the bus dream
Post by: boxcarOkie on September 20, 2010, 03:21:26 AM
Often the best course of action ... is no action.  When things got me down, I would just "walk away from it" for a little while, it is after all, still going to be there tomorrow.

If you sell it and then change your mind ... then what?

BCO