Just cruising the "E" and fell out laughing when I found this.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Used-1996-MCI-MC-12-Coach-Bus-4-Export-Only-/280542112258?pt=Buses#v4-41 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Used-1996-MCI-MC-12-Coach-Bus-4-Export-Only-/280542112258?pt=Buses#v4-41)
I'll let ya'll see what ya think, before elaborating any more!
;D BK ;D
I need this :P
Don't know all the laws, but if its not going to carry passengers and become (RV) why could it not be titled because it has a salvage title now?
I do not know the laws concerning salvage titles...however am also wondering why it cannot be re-titled?
Jack
Before I'd worry about the title, I'd want the details concerning why it has a salvage title. While there are rare exceptions, usually that ain't good.
In Michigan, you can rebuild a vehicle with a salvage title. You do the necessary repairs to make it road worthy, provide receipts for the parts replaced, an officer with the proper training then inspects the vehicle for road worthy-ness. Then it's off to the Secretary of State for a Re-built vehicle title. For a conversion shell, especially if planning a re-power, an opportunity like this isn't bad. However, the title will always be for a rebuilt vehicle and that can affect resale.
Unless, of course, you export it. Salvage status on titles tends to be stripped when you export it...even if you later plan to re-import it. Just one of the known tricks to get a "clean" title.
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Love the mileage claim!
However, there might be gold in them thar hills...
The last of the MC12 came with S50 and overdrive transmission.
I had a chance to run one, and it was a nice upgrade, compared to a 6V92 or 8V71.
happy coaching!
buswarrior
That one says it has a 6V-92.
Since there doesn't appear to be any wreck damage, at least that we can see, it may be a flood job. Anyone with a CARFAX subscription could check it out. The VIN is in the listing.
Nearly all the ads I see are "low reserve" or "no reserve" but they have the opening bid far above what they are ever going to get.
Then there is the famous "priced to sell fast" and "wont last long at this price" but again the price if far far more then then can expect to get.
" Have to sell!!!!!" again, priced so high that they should say "not really interested in selling unless I can get way more than the market will bear.
If they REALLY want to sell and someone flashes cash or makes an offer and NO ONE else has shown any interest...SELL!!
Quote from: ccbmster on August 06, 2010, 04:36:50 PM
Nearly all the ads I see are "low reserve" or "no reserve" but they have the opening bid far above what they are ever going to get.
Then there is the famous "priced to sell fast" and "wont last long at this price" but again the price if far far more then then can expect to get.
" Have to sell!!!!!" again, priced so high that they should say "not really interested in selling unless I can get way more than the market will bear.
If they REALLY want to sell and someone flashes cash or makes an offer and NO ONE else has shown any interest...SELL!!
I think most bus listings on eBay are more about advertising than about selling it there. And people advertising a vehicle for sale are generally prudent to list it for more than they expect to get for it. That way they have negotiating room. That is important because if someone listed a classic Corvette in mint condition for $5000, you know most buyers would still try to negotiate it down. Just something people have ingrained into them about buying a vehicle, most aren't satsfied unless they have negotiated the price down. The car companies tried to break out of that mindset with "no haggle" prices and that pretty much failed.
Florida can issue a "certificate of destruction" on an insurance claim-totaled vehicle, even without any major damage, and the vehicle cannot be titled again in the US. Some folks call this a "salvage title" wrongly- that one can be rebuilt, inspected and retitled. All it takes in an idiot insurance adjuster who doesn't know what he's looking at to put a good vehicle out of business. Don't ask me how I know.
Has anyone determined why this vehicle has a salvage title? It seems suspicious to have no photo of the driver's side of the bus.
I just can't believe that you guys are questioning the sellers information, after all, who would know the vehicle better than the actual seller, I'm sure he would be honest and straightforward in his information, wouldn't your personal satisfaction and happiness in the product be his first concern? ;D ;D ;D
Hello: Cody I love your cynicism; However; If the bus was bought to be scrapped the only available recourse is a salvage title. The original scrap man may not have the ability to transfer the original title especially if it was government or a transit bus organization.
When I purchased an orion coach via auction from sportran in La I was guaranteed a clear title. The auctioneer did not have one. I had to put his feet to the fire to get it. Sportran did not have titles because it was a government organization and they had a certificate from the manufacturer and a nameplate with the vin numbers.
After much calling and wringing of hands the auctioneer had the city of shreveport get a title from la. to send to me. I had to be very persistent to get it because everyone drug their feet. Most of the coaches went to one buyer who took care of those issues in other ways ??? and issued titles if required or scrapped them. I think there is a bit of collusion going on here and the famous phrase is buyer beware.... And PT Barnum's famous line THeres a sucker born every minute...
Regards and Happy bussin mike
Yep mike, there is something going on with that bus that sounds shady, could be it spent time under water or maybe it's the bus judy garland flew to Oz in, or was that a house lol, anyway I would be very concerned with the lack of information as to whats the story behind it, maybe it's a drug lords mule coach and it's full of hidden money cans.
That same seller has had multiple ads with very similar buses. Wherever he got them from there was more than one that were for export only.
Happens all the time, a small player sees a large vehicle for a really low price and they jump in to make some money.
Sometimes the gamble pays, sometimes not.
The dogbus dumped those for whatever reason, this guy thinks he can make a buck.
No greater meaning or significance.
happy coaching!
buswarrior
Quote from: mikelutestanski on August 07, 2010, 10:06:11 AM
Hello: Cody I love your cynicism; However; If the bus was bought to be scrapped the only available recourse is a salvage title. The original scrap man may not have the ability to transfer the original title especially if it was government or a transit bus organization.
When I purchased an orion coach via auction from sportran in La I was guaranteed a clear title. The auctioneer did not have one. I had to put his feet to the fire to get it. Sportran did not have titles because it was a government organization and they had a certificate from the manufacturer and a nameplate with the vin numbers.
After much calling and wringing of hands the auctioneer had the city of shreveport get a title from la. to send to me. I had to be very persistent to get it because everyone drug their feet. Most of the coaches went to one buyer who took care of those issues in other ways ??? and issued titles if required or scrapped them. I think there is a bit of collusion going on here and the famous phrase is buyer beware.... And PT Barnum's famous line THeres a sucker born every minute...
Regards and Happy bussin mike
i have heard of different ways of getting titles for liens for work done and so on but i think mike has hit the nail squarely on the head. every time i check ebay which is almost every day and i see this coach , i wonder whats wrong with it, could frame be twisted and it runs crooked down the road :P :P