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Title: Trip Planning Advice Elkhart to Minn ( thru Chicago??? )
Post by: Gary '79 5C on June 09, 2010, 04:39:12 PM
I am planning a trip to Minneapolis, need to be there 6/18. I plan to leave NJ either Wed evening or Thur early. Stop over Elkhart or South Bend.
My question is what is the best time to get thru Chicago before morning rush?

I was planning on traveling I90 up north and out west. Maybe better route ?

Maybe I am over reacting, but I am an early riser and would like to avoid sitting for hours.

Thanks in advance.

Gary
Title: Re: Trip Planning Advice Elkhart to Minn ( thru Chicago??? )
Post by: robertglines1 on June 10, 2010, 04:13:40 AM
Chicago is on central daylight time...daylight is about 5 am...leave Elkhart around 8 put you in chicago area mid morning..your only about 100 miles to Ill border from Elkhart...Going like you are you will miss most of the headaches..80-90 Interstate  to 39 interstate to Madison Wisc..Being from the East coast should be a breeze for you..
Title: Re: Trip Planning Advice Elkhart to Minn ( thru Chicago??? )
Post by: bevans6 on June 10, 2010, 04:21:13 AM
The last time I drove through Chicago on that route we got hungry so we ordered a Pizza.  That's how long we were stuck in traffic...  If I were to plan such a trip, I would cross Chicago at 3 AM.

Seriously, 4 hours from the western tip around the bottom and out the other side towards Detroit, in 100 degree heat.  A long day.

Brian
Title: Re: Trip Planning Advice Elkhart to Minn ( thru Chicago??? )
Post by: Tom Y on June 10, 2010, 04:38:29 AM
Gary, The other problem is the tolls. We came thru there at 1am 6 weeks ago, no problem but west bound was backed up with construction. Planning on going that way next week, checked last nite almost 2 hrs to miss it.  Tom Y
Title: Re: Trip Planning Advice Elkhart to Minn ( thru Chicago??? )
Post by: robertglines1 on June 10, 2010, 04:39:42 AM
I agree Brian but there isn't a alternative even if you go south 100 miles you still have to run just the west side of chicago to get to madison Wisconsin ...late nite is prob best...80-90 is a madhouse...if time is no problem go up 75 to Up michigian and across to Mn. Longer route but you could visit Cody and Macinac Island..
Title: Re: Trip Planning Advice Elkhart to Minn ( thru Chicago??? )
Post by: robertglines1 on June 10, 2010, 04:46:16 AM
Tom,I'm from Ind...FYI..our Governor leased the Ind toll rd to a foreign country to operate (Saudi)or one of those..sorry I did not vote for him!Don't know of a better way.
Title: Re: Trip Planning Advice Elkhart to Minn ( thru Chicago??? )
Post by: TomC on June 10, 2010, 07:09:50 AM
Personally I would do everything in my power to stay as far away from Chicago as I could (I worked out of Chicago for 12 years, and I live in Los Angeles!).  I highly recommend you continue west on I-80 to Utica and then take I-39 north to Rockford where it rejoins I-90.  You'll just about avoid all the Chicago traffic.  If you get through Gary, In around 5am, I doubt you'll run into any traffic.  Good Luck, TomC
Title: Re: Trip Planning Advice Elkhart to Minn ( thru Chicago??? )
Post by: robertglines1 on June 10, 2010, 09:29:07 AM
100 per cent agree with Tom on 39 route...
Title: Re: Trip Planning Advice Elkhart to Minn ( thru Chicago??? )
Post by: belfert on June 10, 2010, 09:47:01 AM
I usually take I294 through Chicago.  I just avoid rush hour.  Isn't taking I39 a long way out of the way?

I did make the mistake of of going through Downtown Chicago on New Year's day a few years back and traffic was a nightmare.  I figured on no traffic on New Year's day, or I would have skipped going through downtown.
Title: Re: Trip Planning Advice Elkhart to Minn ( thru Chicago??? )
Post by: RickB on June 10, 2010, 10:58:20 AM
I avoid chicago like the plague. Between the tolls and the crappy roads (which the tolls are supposed to maintain) it just isn't worht it for me. The rockford route is always our first choice.

When I was on your with Jonny Lang we got stuck in traffic in Chicago at 3 am!

Good luck and safe travels

Rick
Title: Re: Trip Planning Advice Elkhart to Minn ( thru Chicago??? )
Post by: Gary '79 5C on June 10, 2010, 04:26:04 PM
Thanks Guys,
We might stop in Elmhurst to visit an old friend, (we weren't old when we met...) They work and have advised 294 has construction and is no bargain. I know that this stop just places us within the traffic...

I think it will be a late night deal thru, or early AM, We are planning to visit other old friends in Cleveland, so I need to reassess when we will be traveling thru.

Bottom line is O' dark thirty, or circumnavigate the area,  I80 to I39N. Will keep you posted.

Thanks again.
Title: Re: Trip Planning Advice Elkhart to Minn ( thru Chicago??? )
Post by: rv_safetyman on June 10, 2010, 07:52:59 PM
We just took the I-80/I-39 route (from the west) to get to Elkhorn, WI for the FMCA rally.  That avoids some toll roads, but the short stretch of I-90 from Rockford to Beloit cost $5.00 (five axles).

For the life of me, I can't see why anyone would consider I-80 from the east -- even in the dead of night.  When we head to Elkhart we take US24 for most of the trip.  Good road, fun little towns and a bunch easier on the nerves.  It is not that far out of the way.  It is slower IF traffic is perfect on I-80.  I talked to one of the vendors from Elkhart and he had a terrible trip doing 20MPH most of the way through Chicago area.

Jim
Title: Re: Trip Planning Advice Elkhart to Minn ( thru Chicago??? )
Post by: Fredward on June 10, 2010, 08:33:57 PM
Gary,
What are you coming here for on Father's Day weekend?
Fred
Title: Re: Trip Planning Advice Elkhart to Minn ( thru Chicago??? )
Post by: Gary '79 5C on June 11, 2010, 02:26:13 AM
I am attending my niece's wedding in Minneapolis. I do not get to see alot of the family often, so this will allow to do so. As I age, time is passing quicker, and I value the extended family's life experiences. I was going to hot-shot it out & back myself, but now my wife is going, which is good, and we are taking more time enroute. Father's Day has nothing to do with this.
I will advise the boss as to the possibility of massive traffic and multihour delays. Still looking at the route & timing. I am thinking I80 - I39N is the ticket, and our Elmhurst close college friend will wait. She works and getting there just in mid afternoon would be a possibility, but also could result in big delays. I understand I294 has construction to worsen the problem.
Been 34 years and we have not been to her home in Chicago. Cleveland is another college friend. Kinda funny, as we had not gotten together since college until last summer. They all traveled to the NJ shore to our home and spent a week. My wife speaks to these girls weekly since college. It will be fun what ever we decide.

Good to see the responses, I have noted all the two axle, 5er's.

Gary
Title: Re: Trip Planning Advice Elkhart to Minn ( thru Chicago??? )
Post by: Rick 74 MC-8 on June 11, 2010, 06:43:00 AM
Gary sent you a pm


                           Rick 74 MC-8
Title: Re: Trip Planning Advice Elkhart to Minn ( thru Chicago??? )
Post by: WVA_NATIVE on June 11, 2010, 06:24:58 PM
Once again Tom C is absolutely right and is the route I was going to suggest. I grew up in Chicago suburb of Wheaton and drove bus and limo and 80 west to route 39 north to Rockford is the only way I would go. Save yourself a major headache and go west young man till you hit RT-39. And remember IL only has two seasons WINTER & CONSTRUCTION, and baby it aint cold right now. Oh and my son drive truck and he always takes RT 39 north and avoids Chicago like the plague.

WVaNative 
Title: Re: Trip Planning Advice Elkhart to Minn ( thru Chicago??? )
Post by: rv_safetyman on June 11, 2010, 07:22:58 PM
I don't have a dog in the hunt here, but taking I-80 from Elkhart to I-39 takes you through all the toll roads and terrible traffic.  What am I missing here?

Jim
Title: Re: Trip Planning Advice Elkhart to Minn ( thru Chicago??? )
Post by: WVA_NATIVE on June 11, 2010, 07:49:20 PM
Jim, trust me this is the easiest way to go. You do not want to under any circumstances go 90/94 or 294 to 90. On 90/94 nearing down town Chicago if you are not in the correct lane you can get dumped out on down town streets even when you know where you are going. And believe me you don't want to be down town Chicago in a 40' bus. Plus with the construction they have single or double lanes that look like they are just wide enough for a VW bug and they fly through them at about 70mp, not for the faint of heart. If you are passing through Chicago I suggest instead you pass BY instead. I have spent my whole life driving these roads for a living and 80 to 39 is the best way even with the tolls. No matter which way you go your going to hit tolls in Chicago LOL.

WVaNative
Title: Re: Trip Planning Advice Elkhart to Minn ( thru Chicago??? )
Post by: series60 on June 11, 2010, 09:16:24 PM
Made this trip every week for 15 years & frequently for 30 years (80/90/94 from Michigan to O'Hare area).  One part or another of it has been under construction for the entire period.  But, the last few years have seen big improvements.  I would avoid the skyway (90) and 90/94 thru down-town.  Scenic yes, but pricey (skyway) and prone to congestion.  I'd take the chance on 80/94 to 294 at any time of the day now.  Most of it is *usually* moving at posted or better speed for most of the stretch.  In fact, I know folks who avoid 294 because of the likelihood of high speed heavy traffic.  It can be a little unsettling if you're not used to it.  The whole stretch will have fairly heavy tolls also.  Personally, I'd jump on 290 around the west side of O'Hare Field, might or might not save time, but probably saves a little on tolls.  Elmhurst is a lovely little town right off of 290. 
Title: Re: Trip Planning Advice Elkhart to Minn ( thru Chicago??? )
Post by: jok on June 11, 2010, 09:22:18 PM
Hi Gary,

We have gone through Chicago with the bus while towing the Suburban numerous times and we prefer avoiding the toll roads. The toll booth traffic is crazy and the tolls for a bus is costly. We follow the Mapquest Route;

http://www.mapquest.com/maps?1c=Elkhart&1s=IN&1y=US&1l=41.6819&1g=-85.9767&1v=CITY&2c=Minneapolis&2s=MN&2y=US&2l=44.98&2g=-93.263603&2v=CITY&aot=1 (http://www.mapquest.com/maps?1c=Elkhart&1s=IN&1y=US&1l=41.6819&1g=-85.9767&1v=CITY&2c=Minneapolis&2s=MN&2y=US&2l=44.98&2g=-93.263603&2v=CITY&aot=1)

It may not be the best way but it works for us. We just know that there will be stupid drivers, stop and go traffic and construction. I used to dread it but now I just try not to get stressed and do my own thing, and have my foot ready to slam on the brakes.

You could always make it a real adventure and take the SS Badger across the lake with your bus. It is not cheap but you would definitely remember the trip, in a good way. We have not taken our bus on that ferry but did make the trip with the Suburban.

http://www.ssbadger.com/content.aspx?Page=Schedule (http://www.ssbadger.com/content.aspx?Page=Schedule)

We live 60 miles north of Elkhart in Kalamazoo, Michigan. If you take the SS Badger we are on your way and have room for a bus, with electric. You're welcome to stop by.

John

P.S. We took the evening trip across Lake Michigan and sprung for the State Room. It was worth the expense.
Title: Re: Trip Planning Advice Elkhart to Minn ( thru Chicago??? )
Post by: belfert on June 12, 2010, 05:43:59 AM
The tool booth congestion in Chicago is all but gone.  They have done extensive construction in recent years and have gone to open road tolling.  The toll booths are mostly gone and have been replaced with overhead gantries that have radio receivers to collect tools.  No more slowing down for tolls if you have an iPass or an EZ Pass.

They do still have a few cash booths off to the side if you don't have a electronic device.  I live 350 miles from Chicago and I still have an iPass as I go through there about once or twice a year.  It is much faster and they doubled the tolls for cash payers.
Title: Re: Trip Planning Advice Elkhart to Minn ( thru Chicago??? )
Post by: trucktramp on June 12, 2010, 06:00:57 AM
Like Jok, I too have made this trip from Kalamazoo many times and that particular route is good although I would pay the tolls on the north end of I94 north of Chicago instead of US 41 as there are many stop lights on 41.  If you choose to go downtown via the Dan Ryan, I would recommend you do so after midnight as there is little traffic at this time and you can most likely drive as fast as your bus will go and still be passed by many.  Jok's route will take you through Milwaukee if that is of any interest to you.
You need to get through Chicago before 5:00 am and if you wait until then you will see Milwaukee rush hour.  Pay attention to the signs in Milwaukee or you will end up on I94 through downtown instead of 894 around town.  

Other options to consider are:  I94W to downtown Chicago to I290W (Eisenhour Fwy) to I90W to I39 to I94 to Mpls.

I80W to I294N to I290W to I 90 etc.

The I39 option works but is way out of your way.

Remember that Chicago area is the land of toll roads so be prepared.  They are often cheaper in the wee hours of the morning than in the day time.

If heavy traffic scares you then go in the early am.  Traffic is much less heavy but watch for the 15 minute traffic stops in construction areas.  Many of the AM broadcast stations around Chicagoland give traffic reports.  Try 780, 720, 890 to list a few but you may want to know the "names" (Dan Ryan, Stevenson, Boerman, etc.) as this is how they are listed.

I have not traveled through the Windy city for several years but the only thing that changes is the location of the construction.

Sorry about being so long winded...many choices here.
Title: Re: Trip Planning Advice Elkhart to Minn ( thru Chicago??? )
Post by: Just Dallas on June 12, 2010, 06:52:19 AM
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Title: Re: Trip Planning Advice Elkhart to Minn ( thru Chicago??? )
Post by: Gary '79 5C on June 12, 2010, 09:42:34 AM
Thanks again Guys,

In talking amongst ourselves, looks like we strike out Wed AM, lay over with friends West/side Cleveland. Move on Thurs AM, but that will put us in Chi late afternoon. This appears to be in keeping with the consensus of this forum.

Safest is just to tool further out on I80 and north 39. Could be safe thru downtown, but I am getting older and simpler/boring is more appealing. I will have to stop by to see my friends some other time.

Will keep all informed.
Title: Re: Trip Planning Advice Elkhart to Minn ( thru Chicago??? )
Post by: WVA_NATIVE on June 12, 2010, 10:23:31 AM
Wise is the man who can learn from others mistakes and misadventure's. I give you 5 attaboys and a lollipop for a good decision.

You just don't want anything to do with those expressways around Chicago, because it just like Nascar every car and truck is doing 70+ packed in side by side and the little cars are jockeying for position moving in and out with just inch's to spare. One little mistake and someone dies LOL my son is amaze at my driving skills when we hit the expressways. But I would not want to do it in a bus. I'll check with my son today and make sure that 39 is clear of construction for you. He just went that way Thursday on his way to Wisconsin.

WVaNative   
Title: Re: Trip Planning Advice Elkhart to Minn ( thru Chicago??? )
Post by: RickB on June 12, 2010, 05:02:27 PM
Gary
I sent you a pm.
Rick
Title: Re: Trip Planning Advice Elkhart to Minn ( thru Chicago??? )
Post by: Gary '79 5C on June 12, 2010, 05:38:01 PM
Quote from: WVA_NATIVE on June 12, 2010, 10:23:31 AM
Wise is the man who can learn from others mistakes and misadventure's. I give you 5 attaboys and a lollipop for a good decision.
WVaNative   

Interesting advice to a Bare Foot & Naive Kid, from West Virginia, just trying to get along in the fast lane of New Jersey...  Been located in NJ 34 yrs, but will always be from WV.





Title: Re: Trip Planning Advice Elkhart to Minn ( thru Chicago??? )
Post by: WVA_NATIVE on June 12, 2010, 06:34:12 PM
Gary I'm from Boone Co and went to school in Whitesville. You might remember that town from the mine explosion. My dad worked at the Montcoal mine when I was a little feller. Yep no matter where you go in life Your roots always grow deep in them there hills. Glad to meet another WVa blood brother.

WVaNative
Title: Re: Trip Planning Advice Elkhart to Minn ( thru Chicago??? )
Post by: WVA_NATIVE on June 12, 2010, 06:48:13 PM
Quote from: Gary '79 5C on June 12, 2010, 05:38:01 PM
Quote from: WVA_NATIVE on June 12, 2010, 10:23:31 AM
Wise is the man who can learn from others mistakes and misadventure's. I give you 5 attaboys and a lollipop for a good decision.
WVaNative   

Interesting advice to a Bare Foot & Naive Kid, from West Virginia, just trying to get along in the fast lane of New Jersey...  Been located in NJ 34 yrs, but will always be from WV.
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Bare foot, LOL do I remember that when I was a kid. I used to get up in the morning and go out in front of our house and sit down in the dirt road with only my cut off jeans on and let the sun warm me up like a lizard. Then run around and all day with no shoes, LOL during the summers you just didn't wear shoes at all.

WVaNative