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Title: Freon replacement for R-22 ?
Post by: robertglines1 on May 22, 2010, 05:38:50 AM
Is there a direct replacement for R-22 freon that is available to the public..for the do it yourselfer...
Title: Re: Freon replacement for R-22 ?
Post by: James77MCI8 on May 22, 2010, 12:06:00 PM
Check out this link
http://www2.dupont.com/ISCEON/en_US/products/ISCEON_MO99.html (http://www2.dupont.com/ISCEON/en_US/products/ISCEON_MO99.html)


You most likely won't be able to buy this unless you have certification in recovery and charging HVAC equipment.
Title: Re: Freon replacement for R-22 ?
Post by: robertglines1 on May 22, 2010, 12:18:33 PM
Thanks I have a friend in hvac business (local) and is a bus nut...will contact him and see if he can help me out...
Title: Re: Freon replacement for R-22 ?
Post by: Ray D on May 22, 2010, 05:55:05 PM
Get on  macsw.org  pay your'e $15.00,  take an open book test, get you're freon certificate and go buy some R-22.  It is that easy, I just did it last year and the certificate has not been refused by anyone.

Ray D
Title: Re: Freon replacement for R-22 ?
Post by: robertglines1 on May 22, 2010, 07:13:55 PM
Good idea about certificate...I have gauges and worked supper market and home re fridgeration in my youth.was no rules then..
Title: Re: Freon replacement for R-22 ?
Post by: Hi yo silver on May 22, 2010, 07:32:06 PM
Freeze 12 is working well for me in the original over-the-road a/c.
Dennis
Title: Re: Freon replacement for R-22 ?
Post by: Nick Badame Refrig/ACC on May 23, 2010, 03:58:58 AM
Hi Robert,

The R-438A gas just happens to be Duponts brand and will work just fine.

I use 407-C and 417-A which are also direct drop in refrigerants for R-22.

According to my suppliers, there is enough R-22 around to last about 10+ years...

Another fact,  the price of a 30lb tank of R-22 is still lower then the replacement gasses...??..??

Things that make you go Hummmm!

Have a great day!
Nick-
Title: Re: Freon replacement for R-22 ?
Post by: Hard Headed Ken on May 23, 2010, 05:16:38 AM
Is it true that the replacements are 10% or so less efficient than R22?

Thanks,
Ken
Title: Re: Freon replacement for R-22 ?
Post by: Nick Badame Refrig/ACC on May 23, 2010, 07:54:27 AM
Hi Ken,

More like 5% but only when used in systems that they are not designed for Like R-22..

Hope this helps
Nick-

Title: Re: Freon replacement for R-22 ?
Post by: James77MCI8 on May 23, 2010, 12:06:38 PM
What are you charging up Robert?
Title: Re: Freon replacement for R-22 ?
Post by: robertglines1 on May 23, 2010, 12:10:18 PM
was thinking about building my own mini split out of some old window ac I have...15000 120 v0lt