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Title: Black / Gray water Lil'stanker power tank vent
Post by: Paul on April 10, 2010, 10:56:40 AM

Has any one used one of these vent on there Unit.




http://www.lslproducts.com/IL-DSPage.html (http://www.lslproducts.com/IL-DSPage.html)
Title: Re: Black / Gray water Lil'stanker power tank vent
Post by: Just Dallas on April 10, 2010, 11:10:43 AM
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Title: Re: Black / Gray water Lil'stanker power tank vent
Post by: ruthi on April 10, 2010, 11:36:31 AM
Havent used one, but sure looks like it would do a good job.
Title: Re: Black / Gray water Lil'stanker power tank vent
Post by: JohnEd on April 10, 2010, 11:50:42 AM
What Dallas said. The most spendy coaches made come without such devices and they work well and maint. free.  Your standard vent sys must be working and you NEED to have the bacteria in the black t5tank alive and well.

There is no living end to the chems and devices you can hang on your black tank to make it work equally well as it should without any help.  No end!  This is a pet peeve of mine for a number of reasons:  the crap you pour, needlessly into your tank, formaldehyde is popular, only screws up the septic systems you dump into.  The money you waste could be better spent in a restaurant hiking your cholesterol.

John with the boggled mind
Title: Re: Black / Gray water Lil'stanker power tank vent
Post by: brando4905 on April 10, 2010, 12:15:53 PM
Paul,

I installed  a Lil' Stanker. My black/grey tank is vented through the rear wheel well, and it works great!

Brandon
Title: Re: Black / Gray water Lil'stanker power tank vent
Post by: jjrbus on April 10, 2010, 07:29:36 PM
 The Lil Stanker used to have a muffin or computer type fan in it, not sure if it still does?  If it does they are not designed to work in humid environments and quickly fail.  I know they have a 1 year warranty, but most people use the coach 2 or 3 weeks out of the year, so by the time it is discovered the motor has failed the warranty is expired. If you must go with a fan, jury rigging a bilge blower would be a much better route to take.
Like others have said the best way to go if you having problems with odors is to track down and fix the problem. You can get a lot of help with that here.

                                                                                                                                                     JIm
Title: Re: Black / Gray water Lil'stanker power tank vent
Post by: MattC on April 10, 2010, 07:56:01 PM
I have one cuz it's got a nice stainless steel cap and I didn't want plastic.  I'll let you know how it works.  Figure it'd be a touch of insurance when the roof exhaust fans are working.

If it smokes, I'll just replace the 70mm (or so) muffin fan with one of the dozen or so in storage.  =) 

IMHO
Title: Re: Black / Gray water Lil'stanker power tank vent
Post by: belfert on April 10, 2010, 10:40:47 PM
Can anyone explain what the proper venting is then since I have terrible problems with stink whenever the toilet is flushed going down the road?

It appears that a fairly large volume of air is coming up out of the toilet when the valve is opened.  I have a vent going up to the roof from my combined black/grey tank.  I even put one of those RV 360 vent covers over the end of the vent on the roof.  It is supposed to create a venturi effect to pull air up the vent and out.

I do use non-formaldehyde deodorant in the tank to no avail.  (The amount I spend on the stuff in a year would hardly buy a fast food meal.)
Title: Re: Black / Gray water Lil'stanker power tank vent
Post by: JackConrad on April 11, 2010, 05:26:44 AM
Low air pressure in the coach will cause the air in the tank (higher pressure) to enter the coach when moving and flushing.  We have noticed that if we have the door window and/or drivers side window open when driving, air flows OUT these windows causing a lower pressure in the coach. The air that went out the window has to be replaced from somewhere, usually from around the door and steering, throttle, brake openings in floor, etc. So, you flush the toilet and guess what, the air just got replaced. Jack
Title: Re: Black / Gray water Lil'stanker power tank vent
Post by: Paul on April 13, 2010, 09:50:38 PM


Dallas
I thought a bilge blower pushed fresh air into the bilge and they are 3" & 4". I do like the way the motor is outside and not in the airflow. They are $50.00 and with a motor life of only 1000 hours on all the units in the catalog, I have.

Brando 4905
Do you run the Lil-Stanker unit all the time and how long have you had it?

jjrbus
Thanks for your in put on the motor life.

As Jack stated, I think it is low pressure in the bus and high pressure in the tank.

All pluming fixtures and black / gray tank are vented out the roof. . Did not use any check valve vents or vacuum breakers...

We have a Cyclone pluming vent installed on the coach roof and have not had any trouble on the move.

http://www.campingworld.com/shopping/item/cyclone-sewer-vent/31992 (http://www.campingworld.com/shopping/item/cyclone-sewer-vent/31992)

The trouble is when we use the toilet when the bus is parked.
If we had Lil' Stanker installed we could just power it up then flush.
 
Alternatively, pressurize the bathroom with the Fan-Tastic Fan vent and then flush. I will try this when reinstall the toilet.

Thanks
Paul
Title: Re: Black / Gray water Lil'stanker power tank vent
Post by: brando4905 on April 14, 2010, 06:24:46 AM
Paul,

Just installed my inline Lil' Stanker this winter. I don't need it most of the time, just got it for the winter months when my water system is drained. We take small trips in the winter and the p-traps are dry, works great in this situation. It's is a very quiet and well built little fan.

Brandon
Title: Re: Black / Gray water Lil'stanker power tank vent
Post by: Just Dallas on April 14, 2010, 06:37:11 AM
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