Don't give me a hard time about this, I spent hours on it. I'm just a little slow. Anyway I cooked it up after trying to explain to slow rider in chat what I'm thinking of doing for a bathroom setup.
Its a side isle to the bedroom, center isle to the kitchen, and walk through shower.
The pot is separated by at least a 1/2 wall to keep the TP dry, maybe a pocket door will go there later.
I want the shower in the middle because I'm tall.
Since I have not seen one like this before, can anyone tell me why not?
Just play devils advocate for me.
And this is a 102a3, with one window section as the bathroom (96"*54")
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I would like to play Devil's Advocate with you, but I need to understand more about your drawing.
1: Am I looking at a 24" walkway on either side of the shower?
2: Is the sink located in the shower?
3: Is the toilet set back into a 24" recess?
Dave Siegel
One of the best I have seen is Tom and Karen Hammrick's. The have side isles on the curb side with a shower stall in the middle and the commode near the street side.
I am having fun thinking about Dianne screamming at me every time she has to walk through the shower!
Jack
Do you really want to set in and out of the shower to walk thru ? It would not be lik going thru a closet with the drain and sides. No matter how short the sides are. Do you need that big of shower? Why swing a door into it? Each to their own, but not for me. Tom Y
I'm one of those folks who likes to see people do things their own way (keep the creativity juices flowing). So, although this design wouldn't work for us, I still will throw in a few suggestions...
1) Don't forget to allow for moving large items in/out of the bedroom area. If you have plans for a larger mattress, that could be an interesting challenge with your door placement.
2) The 24 inch wide area for the toilet sounds kinda cramped. It will be less of a problem if you go with a half wall. Just expanding this to 26 or 28 inches would be a noticeable improvement.
3) I realize you labored over the drawing and things may not be to scale. But it looks like the sink is about the size of a coffee can. I am concerned that, if you put a "real" sized sink in there, you have an obstruction to the center aisle doorway. Just trying to picture how this will appear.
4) Lastly, I am thinking about the shower floor. I am picturing folks walking from from the kitchen to the bedroom and having to walk across the shower pan. They have to step over an inch or two lip twice. and if the shower was recently used, the pan will have to be dried after each use. (wet footprints and slip hazzard) I have been trying to think of a solution for this. Perhaps you could construct a mini-pallet with carpet on the upper surface. When you take a shower, the pallet spends a few minutes in the bedroom. When you are finished showering, it gets placed back in the shower pan and provides a nice carpeted surface, the same height as the shower pan lips. Sort of a bridge across the shower.
Ask girl friend?wouldn't work for my wife.not enough room to put her hair on...my shower is mid coach with a linen closet between wall and shower stall;shower is in tallest section of bus...also on MCI 8 I did I recessed the shower floor into the floor for more height.
My female 2 cents offered on this one.
1. I would not want to have someone walking through a wet shower with shoes on. You have dirt and crud on your shoes, they get wet and then you track that into the bedroom and then again back through the house as you come out of the bedroom.
2. You will be leaving sand and stuff in the shower pan each time you cut through.
3. In my stocking feet, forget the shower is wet and then I have wet socks that must be changed.
4. Slipping on the wet shower floor is a big risk.
5. Dallas is in the shower and I need to hurry to the bedroom to get my purse or something and can't get in there.
6. A pallet idea sounds good but I can guarantee that in our case it will be forgotten and will end up soaked.
I don't like walking through the bathroom. I just went for a side isle walk through and 1 1/2 window bathroom. The other 1/2 window was the closet. Jerry
I don't like walk through bathrooms. My bus has the refer, washer/dryer, and hanging closet on the left wall. Then a 24" hall way (it's enough). That leaves 46" from the right wall to the 3/4" plywood wall of the bathroom. Inside the bathroom, I have a 36" x 36" shower stall, and the rest of the area for the toilet and sink. Has worked well, and you don't have to worry about someone taking extra long in the bathroom and blocking access from front to rear. Good Luck, TomC
My thoughts are:
Build a mock-up to see if 24" is enough room to service the toilet. May be enough room to use, but I like a little room to see what I'm doing when I have to repair a leak or something of the sort. ::)
If you are in the habit of drying the shower after every use, the wet floor shouldn't be an issue. 8)
As for me, I don't like the way a walk-thru bath limits access to parts of the coach while in use.
A dropped floor for the shower can open up posibilities for alternate locations. . . . .
My tin turd (32' Airstream) has a center aisle with a side bath & rear bedroom. I am 220# & 6'-1" & while the shower is cramped, it is big enough to take care of business. The dressing area is almost too small - it will be bigger on the bus to minimize bumping my elbows so much when drying off & dressing. 8)
Built it for your use, the next owner will probably change it no matter what you do. ;)
I have some of the same issues as you. I have been toying with a L shaped kitchen for the new bus. This gives a side entrance to the bathroom so the shower can be more toward the center of the bus for headroom. From the entrance you will turn left about 45 degrees and the entrance to the bedroom will be more or less centered. (Single beds with center aisle.)
It helps with another of my pet peeves, that long tunnel look of buses where you can see from windscreen to bedroom.
Don 4107
I have a side isle and a center isle bath. The entrance to the bath from the kitchen is in the center, the entrance to the bath from the BR is off to one side. We almost never close the BR door because nobody can see in nor can we see out. When you walk IN the bathroom from the kitchen you walk beside the neo-angle shower and then around it to the right then back into the BR. The toilet and sink are on the left of the bathroom as you walk in from the Kitchen. This has worked very well for 2 people and gives plenty of room to pass each other if both happen to be in the bath at one time for whatever reason!
would this work for you ??
30" off center walk thru
with vinyl accordean doors it would give you a PRIVATE dressing area
The toilet room is big enough (wide enough) to wipe your butt - important to me and my fat butt
wife gets a bonus shirt closet and dresser drawers if she can live with a 27 x 36 GARDEN BENCH shower
many many RV's had 24 x 36 tub or garden tub showers - worked fine for even a big guy like me
just an idea ?
P.S. is there any free software out there that would make drawings like this easier - please respond in another thread - thank you
I used to use harvard graphics but they no longer support my printer :-(
The best thing you can do it to just think it out. No one but you knows what you like and what your needs are, and what aspects are more important to you. We probably changed out floor plan 50 times, lol. We got a lot of advice, but in the end, we had to do what works for us. We tried the side isle thing. No matter how we tried that, we always ended up with less usable space that way. Everyone has a lot of different ideas, and it is really neat to get other opinions, but in the end, it is your bus. ;D Have fun with it, and good luck.
Yep, what Ruthi said.
A floor plan for a married couple only is going to be different than one for a family or pair of couples (parents & married offspring).
Pete's idea makes good use of space & if you recess the shower a step down, then you can get back the headroom you loose from the center of the aisle.
Ahhh, the possibilities. If you're like me, you'll discover a way you like better as soon as you finish . . . .
Quote from: Dave Siegel on April 12, 2010, 04:06:45 AM
I would like to play Devil's Advocate with you, but I need to understand more about your drawing.
1: Am I looking at a 24" walkway on either side of the shower?
2: Is the sink located in the shower?
3: Is the toilet set back into a 24" recess?
Dave Siegel
1: no, the shower is the walkway
2: Yes
3: No, that is 24" wide
Quote from: WEC4104 on April 12, 2010, 05:27:29 AM
I'm one of those folks who likes to see people do things their own way (keep the creativity juices flowing). So, although this design wouldn't work for us, I still will throw in a few suggestions...
1) Don't forget to allow for moving large items in/out of the bedroom area. If you have plans for a larger mattress, that could be an interesting challenge with your door placement.
2) The 24 inch wide area for the toilet sounds kinda cramped. It will be less of a problem if you go with a half wall. Just expanding this to 26 or 28 inches would be a noticeable improvement.
3) I realize you labored over the drawing and things may not be to scale. But it looks like the sink is about the size of a coffee can. I am concerned that, if you put a "real" sized sink in there, you have an obstruction to the center aisle doorway. Just trying to picture how this will appear.
4) Lastly, I am thinking about the shower floor. I am picturing folks walking from from the kitchen to the bedroom and having to walk across the shower pan. They have to step over an inch or two lip twice. and if the shower was recently used, the pan will have to be dried after each use. (wet footprints and slip hazzard) I have been trying to think of a solution for this. Perhaps you could construct a mini-pallet with carpet on the upper surface. When you take a shower, the pallet spends a few minutes in the bedroom. When you are finished showering, it gets placed back in the shower pan and provides a nice carpeted surface, the same height as the shower pan lips. Sort of a bridge across the shower.
1. good point. This is one reason I'm trying to keep the doorways 30", this might help.
2. Thanks to several who've said that, I might take that advice and go for 26ish", also I'm wondering if a pocket door would be a good idea right there.
3. That was just a joke, I probably spent less than one minute on that. I don't need a beautiful diagram, I just wanted to be able to share the general idea of what I'm thinking.
4. The mini pallet idea might work well, that is something that I could add later. I don't know how big of a deal/safety concern the 2" step into the shower will be, I could build a sort of ramp on either side though, not sure if that'll help. Just so you know after some bad experiences involving a party, a beach and a carpeted S&S MH, I'm banning carpet from any floor of my bus, maybe the roof/walls.
Quote from: Tom Y on April 12, 2010, 04:41:31 AM
Do you really want to set in and out of the shower to walk thru ? It would not be lik going thru a closet with the drain and sides. No matter how short the sides are. Do you need that big of shower? Why swing a door into it? Each to their own, but not for me. Tom Y
Well, either the door will swing into the shower or bedroom. If it swings into the bedroom the door will hit the bed before it opens 180deg. If it swings into the shower I can open it 180deg, and latch it open to keep it out of the way.
Ok, as per the direction of you guys and a girl friend, here is a slightly revised version:
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