It has taken a while, but, I finally have my Bus Port! ;D
Now, all I need to do is add some sides & a door & I'll be ready to bring one home & begin work! Sometimes privacy is the smart path - especially if you live in the historic district of a small town
It is too small (22' x 45' x 12+' side walls), but it is as big as I could squeeze in. Besides, there are only 2 sizes - too damn small & way too damn small. . . . ::)
Nice Looking Port you have there. Wouldn't mind having one like that myself.
I had a friend put up one of those. His was a little larger than yours....60 by 60 or something. He put in a suspended ceiling with flush flo lights and he had a couple feet of fiber glass laid on top. The side walls were built on posts 6X6 inches and he had 6 inch thick foam blocks in the walls that were 14 feet high so his door was 12 foot off the ground. That door was one of those made for the upper peninsula and it was 4 inches thick. In the 95 degree heat of a humid Penn. summer day at 4 pm you would get a chill if you went inn that bld and it hadn't been opened up earlier in the day. Same in the winter with the furnace warming the place and then coming on every couple hours or so religiously. You can really do a sweet job with one of those. He had not a single window or light leak in that bld, by the way.
He had it inspected as a pole bld with a gravel floor and then installed plumbing and elect and concrete. Beat the tax man.
Good luck with your project.
John
Of course, after you bring one bus home, you'll need to build another bus port for the trailer and truck.
Kyle, This looks good. I like what you did to the eves. Can't wait to see it when you put the walls up. Well done, buddy. Aaron
Kyle,
Looks good and I can't wait to see a Scenic parked under there.
You did consider "Snow Load", now that your getting more than your fair share.... ;D
Cliff
"In Sunny Central Florida"
Quote from: FloridaCliff on March 16, 2010, 07:19:07 AM
Looks good and I can't wait to see a Scenic parked under there.
Me too!
Quote from: FloridaCliff on March 16, 2010, 07:19:07 AM
You did consider "Snow Load", now that your getting more than your fair share.... ;D
:( Yes, the codes call for 15 psf, so I went with 30 psf for the busport.
( 30psf ~ 4 feet of snow :o - If we get that much, you may be getting another 'permanent' neighboor. ;D )
Quote from: FloridaCliff on March 16, 2010, 07:19:07 AM
Cliff
"In Sunny Central Florida"
It is also rated for 130 mph wind , so it should withstand most Fl weather too. ;)
Just got a call from the building inspector - IT PASSED!
In a small town, you never know.
He said it was very sturdy - more so than he expected, especially with the 12' tall sides. ;D
Now, all I need is for the stimulus check to arrive & I can enclose it. 8)
Kyle, we have to design for 50 pounds per square foot! Just after I built ours, we got 6 feet of snow in one storm! I got a call from the company to see how it fared. Several folks lost buildings in that storm.
Knowing your attention to detail, I am sure you have done the calculations, but putting walls on that building will really change the structure demands due to wind loads. I had to have huge footings to withstand the wind loads.
Jim
Local code here is for 75 PSF, mainly cause of the tendancy for the lake to whack us with about 6ft then warm up in a couple of days, mother nature has a nasty sence of humor sometimes, in a warm up snow can gain weight conciderably. I went out to the Skanee house and cleaned 4ft of the roofs a couple of weeks ago, now the grass is showing in the yard.
Hi Cody,
"...in a warm up snow can gain weight conciderably." Would you please explain how it does that? I would agree that the weight per cubic foot changes as the weather warms up, but the overall weight remains the same. Unless there is something I missed in physics class on those days I slept through class. A very good possibility.
Thanks, Sam MC8
Snow becomes conciderably more dense in warmer weather, a cold dry snow is much lighter than a wet late spring snow or early fall snow, the moisture content in snow changes with the temperature. In a vacuum absent of outside moisture content the weight of snow would remain the same thru different temperature zones but air contains water that the cold to warm attracts.
I just wish I had a "Bus Port" at all. I don't know how many PSF we need topla for around here, but 4 feet would be almost a winter's worth of snow. I can't build any sort of building for my bus in my city. Garages and accessory buildings are limited to 750 square feet total and my attached garage is 600 square feet already. It used to be 1,500 square feet, but a few bad buildings ruined it for everyone.
My grand plan is/was to sell my current house and move about 15 miles further north where the city would let me build a 2,000 SF garage including space for the bus. This hasn't happened with the housing market the way it is. I don't know if this will ever happen with the housing market and energy situation. By the time I can sell my house I might not be able to afford the energy (gasoline or whatever) for the commute!
I don't think there is any city in my area that allows vertical metal sided buildings or pole barns in residental areas. You need to have 5 to 10 acres before they allow them.
Quote from: rv_safetyman on March 27, 2010, 06:41:30 AM
Kyle, we have to design for 50 pounds per square foot! Just after I built ours, we got 6 feet of snow in one storm! I got a call from the company to see how it fared. Several folks lost buildings in that storm.
Knowing your attention to detail, I am sure you have done the calculations, but putting walls on that building will really change the structure demands due to wind loads. I had to have huge footings to withstand the wind loads.
Jim
No change required here for this building. It is anchored better than their standard. ;D
To add walls, all that is required is to attach the perlins & then the vertical siding.
Quote from: belfert on March 27, 2010, 05:37:25 PM
I don't think there is any city in my area that allows vertical metal sided buildings or pole barns in residential areas. You need to have 5 to 10 acres before they allow them.
The 'enclosed carport' is allowed, pole barns are another story.
I could have had the same roof & height for ~half the money, but I wanted it to look more 'neighborhood friendly'. Past experience shows that is the least expensive way in the long run around here. ;)
When I built my shop in 1999, I ordered the trusses from a great company: Miracle Steel (sadly, no longer in business). It is a 36X56 building. With the exception the of concrete, I did all of the fabrication including erecting the trusses. I documented the project at: http://beltguy.com/garage1.htm. (http://beltguy.com/garage1.htm.)
The construction allowed me to use wood siding for the shop. On the front, I did a half-axx job of matching the front of the house. That made the home owners association as happy as those folks can be (are they ever happy?)
Jim
Nice shop.
Lots of neat projects too. Maybe a wood fired water heater would be able to heat the floor & make the shop more inviting in cold weather. ;D
Working link (removed the trailing "."): http://beltguy.com/garage1.htm (http://beltguy.com/garage1.htm)