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Title: rivets
Post by: 1960eagle on February 26, 2010, 08:19:44 AM
Greetings,                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I am going to have to replace rivets on upper roof and few on the upper sides.Wonder if any one has any suggestions on best rivet source.seems that the rivets i am replacing broke in half.perhaps weak tensile strengh.looking at blind rivets with high tensile strengh.   thoughts&suggestions?                                                                                                                                                                    Thanks.
Title: Re: rivets
Post by: luvrbus on February 26, 2010, 08:55:24 AM
Eagles will pop those rivets when in a twist they were design to do that go back with the same rivets or it will cause problems else where if you have a twist again.




good luck
Title: Re: rivets
Post by: gus on February 26, 2010, 06:11:37 PM
Very few rivets see any stress other than shear, tension is not their strong point.

This means that  filling the hole with the rivet is essential so there is no movement between the two metal sheets.

Solid or solid filled core rivets are best.
Title: Re: rivets
Post by: DaveG on February 27, 2010, 12:27:35 PM
Probably the first thing you need to do is identify the rivet (solid/buck type, Monobolt, or other) then you can pointed in the right direction. As a sideline, rivets are part of what I do in my business, so if you can get an Eagle Type person to i.d. the rivet, I can help you with sourcing. PM me or something and I will help you out.
Title: Re: rivets
Post by: gus on February 27, 2010, 09:05:16 PM
Dave,

There must be a good solid core pop rivet that can do that job well?

I have some structural pop rivets but they are only 1/8", probably too small for that job.

Title: Re: rivets
Post by: JackConrad on February 28, 2010, 05:17:22 AM
Check with International Bus & Parts 1-800-468-5287 or Blyer Rivet  www.bylerrivet.com (http://www.bylerrivet.com)  Jack
Title: Re: rivets
Post by: luvrbus on February 28, 2010, 07:58:15 AM
Dave, on the roof  of Eagles they have 2 different type rivets why I don't know you have 5/32 buck and 3/16 monobolts rivets no pop rivets on a Eagle anywhere



good luck
Title: Re: rivets
Post by: gus on February 28, 2010, 04:15:00 PM
Structural pop rivets probably didn't exist when Eagles were built.
Title: Re: rivets
Post by: luvrbus on February 28, 2010, 04:20:03 PM
I am sure they were around Gus but were not needed on a Eagle not 1 piece of metal or siding is structural 


good luck
Title: Re: rivets
Post by: gus on March 02, 2010, 03:22:13 PM
I had assumed that Eagles were monocoque based on their appearance, live and learn.
Title: Re: rivets
Post by: DaveG on March 02, 2010, 03:43:13 PM
Today's 'structural' style pop rivet is a Monobolt, or similar (Monobolt is Huck's name, other mfg. have their own names...basically a blind (can be set from one side only...like where you can't get to the back side) rivet like your average Pop rivet only with more strength. Let me know if you need shear and tensile values.

When we think of a Huckbolt, we generally are refering to a two piece fastener that is set with a pnuematic/hydraulic tool, consisting of the lockbolt or pin and a collar (think nut and bolt that are single use).

So if I was gonna classify rivets I would lump them into three categories

1) solid, buck type rivet

2) blind fasterner (Pop or other, regardless of strength values)

3) Huck bolt