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Title: 1999 Ford Expedition Fire Sale
Post by: randsgmc5302 on December 06, 2009, 11:35:15 AM

We were awakened at midnight last night by police officers yelling for us to get out of our house because our Expedition was in flames  and was parked between the house and the bus and they were afraid it would blow up.  We had parked it there at about 6:30pm.  We have posted pictures on our photo bucket website if you want to take a look.  The expedition did not survive, the house was fine and the bus had some damage like the windshield cracked, the destination sign melted and some of the lenses on the front of the bus melted.  Overall I guess we were pretty lucky as we were all fine and we didn't lose our home or our home away from home(da bus).
Randy and Michelle Humburg
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Title: Re: 1999 Ford Expedition Fire Sale
Post by: John316 on December 06, 2009, 11:41:29 AM
Wow, you all are very blessed. That is incredible it didn't damage the house, or the bus, that much. We often don't realize how blessed we are, until we are in a situation like you were in. Amazing how you were protected...

There was another gent, on the board, that had his house burn. His bus was pretty burned out, and his story didn't end as nice as yours.

Did they ever find out what happened to the expedition, and why it burned?

God bless,

John

Title: Re: 1999 Ford Expedition Fire Sale
Post by: kyle4501 on December 06, 2009, 11:42:40 AM
Bummer, Dude!

At least it wasn't worse . . .

Good luck with the repairs.
Title: Re: 1999 Ford Expedition Fire Sale
Post by: randsgmc5302 on December 06, 2009, 11:45:13 AM
Exactly it definitely could have been way worse.....Thanks!
Title: Re: 1999 Ford Expedition Fire Sale
Post by: randsgmc5302 on December 06, 2009, 11:48:48 AM
They put it as undetermined but it appears it started in the engine compartment. And yes the main thing is we are all fine and it could have been much worse.
Title: Re: 1999 Ford Expedition Fire Sale
Post by: luvrbus on December 06, 2009, 11:49:34 AM
Looks like somebody didn't pay attention to the recall about the cruise control wiring starting a fire.
My daughter in Texas lost one that way hers caught fire about 1am in the garage cost Ford a new car and a house.
She was very lucky her and grand kids got out safe



good luck
Title: Re: 1999 Ford Expedition Fire Sale
Post by: randsgmc5302 on December 06, 2009, 11:57:26 AM
We didn't get a recall on it at all.
Title: Re: 1999 Ford Expedition Fire Sale
Post by: luvrbus on December 06, 2009, 12:16:36 PM
She told me you should have one dated Sept 07 2005 500,000 were recalled hers caught fire in 2001  and there was a bunch of recalls on the 1999 year model


good luck
Title: Re: 1999 Ford Expedition Fire Sale
Post by: Busted Knuckle on December 06, 2009, 12:41:29 PM
Wow Randy that is terrible!
Great news is that nobody was hurt!

I too was thinking that the cruise control was probably the cause!

I keep getting recall notices on my '95 F350 Dually from Ford for the same reason!

I been meaning to get it in and get it fixed. But with the problems I been having with the buses maybe I need to park them all real close together! ;D
;D  BK  ;D
Title: Re: 1999 Ford Expedition Fire Sale
Post by: randsgmc5302 on December 06, 2009, 12:49:30 PM
Well here's the thing for us, we own First Rate Auto & Bus Upholstery and Car Sales and we have a dealers license so when we buy cars from various places by WI department of tranportation statue we are required to hold the titles until we sell the vehicle it is never put into our name only the next retail buyers name thus the reason for the recall never coming to us.  I am really happy that it happened to us (We were using it as our driver) and not one of our customers but be assured had we known about the recall we would have followed up on it.
Title: Re: 1999 Ford Expedition Fire Sale
Post by: Dreamscape on December 06, 2009, 01:19:11 PM
I had a recall on our 94 Lincoln for the same reason, cruise control. Dealer fixed it at no charge. So that tells ya how far back it went.

Sorry for the problem, gald no one was hurt. The other stuff is replaceable.

Paul
Title: Re: 1999 Ford Expedition Fire Sale
Post by: bobofthenorth on December 06, 2009, 01:36:01 PM
That was a huge recall - Marilyn's '97 Grand Marquis was caught in it as well.  She took it in as soon as she got the letter, the dealer promptly unplugged the cruise, told her that he had removed it completely & told her it would be at least 3 months before they could get parts.  We left it and went away for the winter.  I flew home briefly that winter and was supposed to pick the car up - repaired - to use.  I went 3/4 ballistic when I discovered that they still hadn't done anything.  The service droid explained that they had just disconnected the cruise and I explained to him that he was going to show me how to hook it back up.  He did & I did & it didn't catch on fire.  I can't remember how the story ended - she must have got the recall completed at some point.
Title: Re: 1999 Ford Expedition Fire Sale
Post by: gumpy on December 06, 2009, 02:08:02 PM
yep, cruise control.  The been sending me letters for a few years on my 95 F150. The cruise hasn't worked for about 10. I just keep forgetting to make an appointment.
Maybe it'll burn and they'll buy me a new one.
Title: Re: 1999 Ford Expedition Fire Sale
Post by: jok on December 06, 2009, 02:23:45 PM
I got a recall about a week ago on my 1999 F-350 for the cruise control. It was my first letter from Ford on the recall and was dated November 2009. Looks like they have not got to your Expedition recall yet. Look for it in the mail tomorrow.

Glad to hear it was not worse. I will park my truck in the field until I get it into the dealer.

John
Title: Re: 1999 Ford Expedition Fire Sale
Post by: Busted Knuckle on December 06, 2009, 03:53:45 PM
Quote from: jok on December 06, 2009, 02:23:45 PM
I got a recall about a week ago on my 1999 F-350 for the cruise control. It was my first letter from Ford on the recall and was dated November 2009. Looks like they have not got to your Expedition recall yet. Look for it in the mail tomorrow.

Glad to hear it was not worse. I will park my truck in the field until I get it into the dealer.

John

John I have room beside the broke buses if you wanna park it somewhere safe! ;D
;D  BK  ;D
Title: Re: 1999 Ford Expedition Fire Sale
Post by: jok on December 06, 2009, 04:15:15 PM
Good idea BK. Two birds with one stone method. New truck for me, new buses for you. I didn't say that out loud did I? :)

John
Title: Re: 1999 Ford Expedition Fire Sale
Post by: edroelle on December 06, 2009, 05:33:14 PM
Randy and Michelle,

(Randy and Michelle have been long time members of Converted Coach Owners, CCO, and are now Randy is the president of the bus club.)

Wow.  You are very blessed.   

We say, "It can not happen to us."     It could have been your house AND bus AND SUV !

None of us really are immune.  I am not an insurance agent, but, I preach about buying "agreed upon value" bus insurance and replacement value home insurance.  For those reading this - please consider it.

Ed

Title: Re: 1999 Ford Expedition Fire Sale
Post by: Iceni John on December 06, 2009, 06:03:16 PM
Wow!   Makes me wonder why these cruise controls don't blow their fuses first  -  did Ford (Where Quality Is Number One) actually fuse them at all?   My car had a recall a few years ago for wiring insulation that could get damaged.   I hope Ford does the right thing for you.

I'm thankful I've got a Cole-Hersee master switch for my bus's starting batteries:  I always turn it off every time I park the bus.   Too bad that cars don't have similar master switches, presumably because all their electronics have to stay energized.   

John
Title: Re: 1999 Ford Expedition Fire Sale
Post by: usbusin on December 06, 2009, 06:13:48 PM
Good question, Iceni John.  Why doesn't the fuse blow?  Glad that my Ford Taurus Crossover X isn't on the list, . . . yet.
Title: Re: 1999 Ford Expedition Fire Sale
Post by: Tenor on December 07, 2009, 01:01:28 AM
Wow!  Amy and I are glad you are all right and that the minor damage to bus and basketball net are the extent of the collateral damage!  We are definitely looking forward to seeing you and Michelle this summer.

Glenn
Title: Re: 1999 Ford Expedition Fire Sale
Post by: Wannabebusowner on December 07, 2009, 11:09:24 AM
The problem is in the switch that is mounted to the brake master cylinder. It is supposed to detect when you step on the brakes and turn the cruise off.

The switch develops a leak to the brake fluid. The fluid causes corrosion that leads to shorts and heat and fire.

I had a very interesting conversation with an insurance fire examiner about this issue.  At the time (the Jan the tsunami in Indonesia occurred) Ford had not acknowledged the issue and this guy was saying it was a big deal.