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Title: Wondering about leveling bed independent of the bus.
Post by: zubzub on November 22, 2009, 11:50:57 AM
I will probably install some kind of air bag leveling system at some point...but as previously note on this board the air bags do not have that much range of motion. I could augment this with blocking etc...but a simple idea has occured to me.  Maybe I'll make the bed adjustable for p/s,forward /aft. 
Just musing haven't really put my mind to it yet....has anyone else done this?  thanks as always...Patrick.
Title: Re: Wondering about leveling bed independent of the bus.
Post by: JackConrad on November 22, 2009, 01:24:53 PM
Had not thought about it, but it could easliy be done with 4 12 volt linear actuators.  Jack
Title: Re: Wondering about leveling bed independent of the bus.
Post by: Jriddle on November 22, 2009, 02:04:54 PM
Sound like a good idea but make sure the actuators can stand a little rough housing like grand kids jumping on the bed. LOL

John
Title: Re: Wondering about leveling bed independent of the bus.
Post by: PP on November 22, 2009, 03:15:00 PM
Don't motels charge .25 cents a minute for that? ???
Title: Re: Wondering about leveling bed independent of the bus.
Post by: ruthi on November 22, 2009, 03:25:59 PM
Thats funny Patrick, we thought of doing that, but, we laughed it off. It is good to hear someone else has thought of that.  ;D  But, dont see why it cant be done.
Title: Re: Wondering about leveling bed independent of the bus.
Post by: Len Silva on November 22, 2009, 03:35:34 PM
But then you would need a fridge leveling system and a table leveling system.
Title: Re: Wondering about leveling bed independent of the bus.
Post by: zubzub on November 22, 2009, 03:47:35 PM
Glad to hear I'm not the only one to think of it.  Maybe I'll be the only one to do it.  I'm more thinking of the road trip kind of thing, dumb parking spot for the night, all crooked and I want to sleep.
Title: Re: Wondering about leveling bed independent of the bus.
Post by: ruthi on November 22, 2009, 05:07:44 PM
Yep, we travel for work and stay in the walmart parking lots, sometimes several days, and it always leans. We try and park with the heads uphill. We would like to put levelers on the new bus, but we will have to wait a while on that. Not too worried about the table, fridge, etc., tho. Elec. fridge, so no worries. ;D Let us know how it works out for you. Really, it should work. Good luck
Title: Re: Wondering about leveling bed independent of the bus.
Post by: RTS/Daytona on November 22, 2009, 05:21:36 PM
you would be suprise by the amount of leveling that can be achived by manualing controling the OEM airbags system.

With my 35' RTS (non tag axle) - I can get EACH corner of the bus to deflect up to about a maximum 12" (that's max deflection of any one corner at a time -  yes I know that the air bags don't move 12" - but remember the pivot point is the wheels and with the overhang in front and back of the bus the movement is AMPLIFIED - I use only a 3 point system  (my front air bag are tie together - from the factory) - by leaving some air in the front air bags - they will self-adjust - when using the rear air bags to tillt the bus side to side.

This way I never put more stress on my frame then the original desigh engineers intended - using 4 point could possiblely stress the frame
Title: Re: Wondering about leveling bed independent of the bus.
Post by: Brian Diehl on November 22, 2009, 05:29:43 PM
I made my bed frame so we could level it.  I simply can't stand to sleep with my head downhill.  On my web page I show the base frame of the bed being painted (it is upside down).  http://home.earthlink.net/~diehls0792/BusSection2.html (http://home.earthlink.net/~diehls0792/BusSection2.html)

I built another simple steel frame (2" angle iron) with two cross supports that goes on top of the frame base.  The top frame has a couple of pieces of angle iron in the corners that sit down next to the angle iron on the angles of the frame base.  This keeps the top frame on the bottom frame.  I plan to mount some kind of actuators on the corners in the future, but just use small pieces of plywood I cut to shim the frame.  I just lift up the top frame, slide the plywood shims under (between the top and base frames) in the corners and instantly I have a level bed.  I wouldn't be without this system!
Title: Re: Wondering about leveling bed independent of the bus.
Post by: NewbeeMC9 on November 23, 2009, 04:05:28 AM
My bed is across the back of the bus so I just move my pillow to the other side.


Leveling the bed is a good idea even if you have airbag leveling or not.  You may want to raise the head of the bed a little especially if too much campfire food bothers you. :o
Title: Re: Wondering about leveling bed independent of the bus.
Post by: robertglines1 on November 23, 2009, 05:17:23 AM
Water Bed ;D sorry was first thought..How heavy is your coach? There are take out leveling systems out of sticks and staples; cheap!most would handle 28,000lbs.
Title: Re: Wondering about leveling bed independent of the bus.
Post by: TomC on November 23, 2009, 08:39:10 AM
Unless you have an Eagle or any other non air suspension bus, it is relatively easy to set up manual air suspension leveling system.  I have it on my transit (2 in the rear and 1 in the front) and it takes less than 1 minute to level out after pulling into the campsite.  Good Luck, TomC
Title: Re: Wondering about leveling bed independent of the bus.
Post by: Jriddle on November 23, 2009, 01:24:01 PM
Three point airbag system works great for me. If I can't get it level then need to move to a new spot.

John
Title: Re: Wondering about leveling bed independent of the bus.
Post by: gus on November 23, 2009, 02:53:33 PM
Our bed is side to side.

If we can't find a level spot we use two pillows each, or more if necessary.
Title: Re: Wondering about leveling bed independent of the bus.
Post by: JohnEd on November 24, 2009, 10:56:00 AM
What Len said.  Off level will destroy a fridge.  And if it is a fridge designed for stationary cabin use you can destroy it in mere minutes.  Don't ask me how I know about that $700 MISTAKE.  Who Knu?

John
Title: Re: Wondering about leveling bed independent of the bus.
Post by: gus on November 24, 2009, 06:26:28 PM
An LP frige only has to be leveled side to side for the frige, usually fore and aft for the bus since most are mounted against a wall. Front to back for the frige doesn't matter.

I always wondered about this and finally found out the reason.
Title: Re: Wondering about leveling bed independent of the bus.
Post by: NewbeeMC9 on November 25, 2009, 07:51:54 AM
Quote from: JohnEd on November 24, 2009, 10:56:00 AM
What Len said.  Off level will destroy a fridge.  And if it is a fridge designed for stationary cabin use you can destroy it in mere minutes.  Don't ask me how I know about that $700 MISTAKE.  Who Knu?

John

OK I won't ask how you know, but how did you learn it? ???
Title: Re: Wondering about leveling bed independent of the bus.
Post by: NewbeeMC9 on November 25, 2009, 07:54:53 AM

For leveling the bed. what about getting 3 of the trucker air ride seat mounts  to mount the bed on then you have local adjust ability and bed ride quality. :)
Title: Re: Wondering about leveling bed independent of the bus.
Post by: Busted Knuckle on November 25, 2009, 08:03:49 AM
Quote from: NewbeeMC9 on November 25, 2009, 07:54:53 AM

For leveling the bed. what about getting 3 of the trucker air ride seat mounts  to mount the bed on then you have local adjust ability and bed ride quality. :)

Even better yet get some of the little airbags for the rear of a big truck sleeper (already cushioning a bed right?)

I have bought them off Ebay several times cheap, small compact and handy as a pocket in yer underwear for little off the wall projects!
;D  BK  ;D
Title: Re: Wondering about leveling bed independent of the bus.
Post by: gus on November 25, 2009, 03:06:30 PM
Even better yet, get some more pillows!!