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Title: Name that "bus" Answer: Genesis (Thread updated)
Post by: rv_safetyman on November 09, 2009, 05:49:48 PM
OK, Ed Hackenbruch is trying to drive me crazy (or more crazy) :D

He sent me photos that a person sent to him.  It is not a bus, but appears to be built on a Freightliner cabover.  It was said to be owned by Aeorsmith and Genesis was the manufacturer.  I have just spent a ton of time searching on Google.

Here are a couple of pictures and I will include two more in the next post.

Jim
Title: Re: Name that "bus"
Post by: rv_safetyman on November 09, 2009, 05:55:36 PM
Here are two more:
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Post by: luvrbus on November 09, 2009, 06:14:01 PM
If Genesis Aircraft converted it I would like too see the interior , they converted Cole's Eagle and is it ever plush and filled with aircraft gadgets and gauges never before seen in a coach. 




good luck
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Post by: Nick Badame Refrig/ACC on November 09, 2009, 06:42:36 PM
Hi Jim,

I tried to look up his EGG # but, FMCA's web site is totally down right now...

Nick-
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Post by: gumpy on November 09, 2009, 06:51:55 PM
Definitely looks like a cabover chassis. Love the stylin on the rear end. That's some awesome fiberglass work along the sides.
Sure would like to see this thing up close and personal. That entrance door has to be a work of marvel.

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Post by: DaveG on November 09, 2009, 06:55:08 PM
It is not a Freightliner...looks like a Peterbilt 362
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Post by: rv_safetyman on November 09, 2009, 06:58:00 PM
Nick, I tried that as well.  Ed has the member issue and looked up the number.  That number is for Wally and Darcy Campbell from South Dakota.

Jim
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Post by: TomC on November 09, 2009, 07:07:16 PM
That is definitely a Peterbilt cabover-what they call a fish bowl cabover.  Good Luck, TomC
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Post by: DaveG on November 09, 2009, 07:08:59 PM
There you go! Come on 'truck guys', no is our chance to show these busnuts we's know sumthin'!
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Post by: Dreamscape on November 09, 2009, 07:20:39 PM
That is one piece of iron I would like to see in person, real spacey looking.

Neat!
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Post by: eaglespirit on November 09, 2009, 07:25:10 PM
It is a Pete 362 that has been customized. Somewhat like the trucks done by Canopea. That is the only coe I know of with air suspention front axel. I drove one & was impressed with the smoothness, best riding coe I ever drove. They didn't last, not many sold.
Title: Re: Name that "bus"
Post by: DaveG on November 09, 2009, 07:25:33 PM
I think Tom is refering to the Peterbilt 372.
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Post by: eaglespirit on November 09, 2009, 07:33:07 PM
372 is correct, it has the streamlined nose.
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Post by: Eagle78550 on November 09, 2009, 07:42:48 PM
Looks like maybe an earlier version of the Twins Custom Coaches....a little strange for my taste ...but oh well !
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Post by: eaglespirit on November 09, 2009, 07:56:14 PM
some information from Wikipedia

372: Designed for high efficiency and driver comfort, this was the most aerodynamic Peterbilt cabover ever built. The nose piece of the cab flipped forward (similar to the old 350 COE of the 1950s) allowing access to maintenance items. 372 was in production from 1988 until 1993. The 372 proved that 10+ MPG can be achieved with a class 8 truck. The truck has the distinction of being the most unusual Peterbilt design offering a sinister Darth Vader look that some also though looked like a motorhome (think Winnebago) or a football helmet.
Title: Re: Name that "bus"
Post by: Ed Hackenbruch on November 09, 2009, 07:58:22 PM
I just sent an email to the guy that sent me the photos and asked him to take some of the interior if at all possible and find out some more info.  Hopefully it is still where he is staying.  I talked to Jim on the phone a while ago........I bet he is going to be up all nite trying to find out more about it. ;D
Title: Re: Name that "bus"
Post by: Ed Hackenbruch on November 10, 2009, 07:56:03 AM
Got a reply.  Owners are gone right now but should be back for Thanksgiving.  Neighbor said that it was built in Mass. and that a boat builder did the fiberglass work. All of this info is 2nd and 3rd hand. Will get interior pics and the facts when the folks get back. Stay tuned. :)
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Post by: Lonnie time to go on November 10, 2009, 09:46:51 AM
thanks Ed keep us updated
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Post by: gumpy on November 10, 2009, 03:44:44 PM
So, is the front end on that thing original Pete?  Or is it a fiberglass add on? 

That's one cool looking RV.

A friend of mine just built a Kingsley repro on a Volvo chassis. He did some really nice work on it.

Title: Re: Name that "bus"
Post by: buswarrior on November 10, 2009, 05:02:10 PM
Below, there's a "372":

Yes, there has been some great work done to the front too!

More pics of the model here:

http://images.google.ca/images?q=peterbilt+372&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=0wb6SqOtNIainQeFxvj7DA&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CBIQsAQwAA (http://images.google.ca/images?q=peterbilt+372&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=0wb6SqOtNIainQeFxvj7DA&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CBIQsAQwAA)

happy coaching!
buswarrior
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Post by: buswarrior on November 10, 2009, 05:11:39 PM
Another 372 RV

From this collection:

http://www.hankstruckpictures.com/mark_wayman_pb372s.htm (http://www.hankstruckpictures.com/mark_wayman_pb372s.htm)

happy coaching!
buswarrior
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Post by: rv_safetyman on November 10, 2009, 08:18:21 PM
Ed sent me some pictures of the rear of the "bus".  

This is the best of the lot.

Jim

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Post by: buswarrior on November 10, 2009, 08:25:28 PM
Someone knew what they were doing, great lines and from the pics, workmanship/design on the 'glass is nicely executed.

Thanks for sharing!

happy coaching!
buswarrior
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Post by: NewbeeMC9 on November 10, 2009, 09:43:45 PM
Quote from: buswarrior on November 10, 2009, 05:11:39 PM
Another 372 RV

From this collection:

http://www.hankstruckpictures.com/mark_wayman_pb372s.htm (http://www.hankstruckpictures.com/mark_wayman_pb372s.htm)

happy coaching!
buswarrior

Dig those hubcaps :)
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Post by: hargreaves on November 11, 2009, 02:03:20 AM
How long is the "friggin" driveshaft?
Title: Re: Name that "bus"
Post by: buswarrior on November 11, 2009, 12:36:09 PM
School bus long?

happy coaching!
buswarrior
Title: Re: Name that "bus"
Post by: jackhartjr on November 11, 2009, 08:53:46 PM
First time I saw one of those Petes I almost threw up...come to think of it I had that same reaction the last time I saw one...can you say "Butt Ugly!"
Jack
Title: Re: Name that "bus"
Post by: Busted Knuckle on November 12, 2009, 08:08:23 AM
Quote from: jackhartjr on November 11, 2009, 08:53:46 PM
First time I saw one of those Petes I almost threw up...come to think of it I had that same reaction the last time I saw one...can you say "Butt Ugly!"
Jack

ROFLMAO!

Jack reminds me of when Frieghtliner, Pete, KW, & IH all got jealous of Volvo winning the same award year after year when the new trucks came out!
Anyone know which award that was?...
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It was the ugliest truck award!
And BAM they all wanted a piece of it!

Well first Frieghtliner took it with the "Century Class"
Then KW took it the next yr with the T-2000 ! (which when it came out I nick named it "an extended hood cab over" and the name stuck. At least in the circle of "chicken haulers" I ran with anyway!)
Then Pete joined in with the KW Look alike 387 ! YUK ! what a waste of a red oval!

To this day I have to say the T-2000 and the 387 are the butt ugliest trucks ever on the road! JMHOFWIW! ;D  
;D  BK  ;D
Title: Re: Name that "bus"
Post by: belfert on November 12, 2009, 12:10:31 PM
The fiberglass work on that motorhome is exquisite, but it seems pretty dated.  The look kinda screams late 80s or early 90s.
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Post by: luvrbus on November 12, 2009, 01:01:59 PM
BK and Jack, did anyone ever make a nice looking cabover truck.
Dad bought 50 new Frieghtliners in 1962 when White owned the Co. and I was in his office one day and he was looking for drivers so I ask did they quit because he never had a turn over in drivers he answered no I just have 11 drivers out with kidney stones. true story



good luck
Title: Re: Name that "bus"
Post by: Busted Knuckle on November 12, 2009, 05:58:10 PM
Quote from: luvrbus on November 12, 2009, 01:01:59 PM
BK and Jack, did anyone ever make a nice looking cabover truck.
Dad bought 50 new Frieghtliners in 1962 when White owned the Co. and I was in his office one day and he was looking for drivers so I ask did they quit because he never had a turn over in drivers he answered no I just have 11 drivers out with kidney stones. true story
good luck

Well Clifford they sorta did, KW built the Aerodyne back in the late '70's or early '80's. (I was a huge fan of "BJ & the Bear", & I thought his truck was down right cool!  8) but then again I was like 11-13 yrs old then too!)

And remember the "Century, T-2000, & 387" were actually conventionals that had the look of an extended hood cab-over! 

I harassed many a driver about his "ugly little extended cab-over, and wanted to know if it would shrink or grow if it got wet!"
;D  BK  ;D
Title: Re: Name that "bus"
Post by: Jeremy on November 13, 2009, 02:44:45 AM
Quote from: Busted Knuckle on November 12, 2009, 05:58:10 PM

Well Clifford they sorta did, KW built the Aerodyne back in the late '70's or early '80's. (I was a huge fan of "BJ & the Bear", & I thought his truck was down right cool!  8) but then again I was like 11-13 yrs old then too!)


Speaking of such things, isn't TomC's truck the same as the one Arnie drove in the second Terminator movie?

(https://busconversionmagazine.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpublic.globalnet.hr%2F%7Emaprstac%2Fphotos%2Fjpeg%2FCAP258.JPG&hash=6f05789e308f636b057ea2877ce9e06a7ad7c5c4)


Jeremy
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Post by: Tenor on November 13, 2009, 06:32:21 AM
All I can add it that this guy truly owns a "Land Yacht"!

Glenn
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Post by: Ed Hackenbruch on November 13, 2009, 06:49:54 AM
My first impression when i saw the "wings", which are supposed to light up by the way, is that it reminded me of some of the cruise ships that advertise on tv, like maybe Carnival Cruise Ships? 
Title: Re: Name that "bus"
Post by: TomC on November 13, 2009, 09:25:58 AM
Jeremy- that's an old style Freightliner cabover.  Mine is a shorty Kenworth Aerodyne-like the bigger version used in BJ and The Bear.  They used the 112", mine is a 90".  Back in the 80's, the overall length of the trucks were restricted to 55ft.  By using the 86" (at first) or the 90" Aerodyne, and keeping the wheelbase to a short (rock and rolling) 151", you could pull a 45ft trailer-which was important in the furniture moving industry.  When I quit, I had a relatively short 235" wheelbase on my 90" Aerodyne with a 96" sleeper behind, and pulling a 48ft'r behind gave me an overall length of 68ft.  With a 53ft'r, that would have been 73ft overall.  I have a friend that has a KW square nose conventional with a big 144" sleeper behind on a 320" wheel base.  That puts his overall length at nearly 80ft pulling a 53ft'r!  Bigger and bigger they get! Good Luck, TomC
Title: Re: Name that "bus"
Post by: Jeremy on November 13, 2009, 01:40:45 PM
Ok. To my untrained eye the Freightliner and Kenworth look amazingly similar from that front view at least.

I would say that 99% of trucks here are cabovers, incidentally, which I've always assumed was because of length restrictions. The only people who use conventionals are those specialising in moving abnormal loads - I don't know whether that's because their trucks typically have bigger engines that your average over-the-road truck, or whether they operate under licences which bypass the usual length restrictions.

Jeremy
Title: Re: Name that "bus" Answer: Genesis Thread updated
Post by: rv_safetyman on December 31, 2009, 07:24:20 PM
Ed Hackenbruch forwarded me some more pictures of the neat vehicle.

Title: Re: Name that "bus" Answer: Genesis (Thread updated)
Post by: Dreamscape on January 01, 2010, 05:59:40 AM
That is amazing Jim!

Where does this guy live?

Paul
Title: Re: Name that "bus" Answer: Genesis (Thread updated)
Post by: rv_safetyman on January 01, 2010, 08:08:21 AM
Paul, I hope that Ed will chime in here.  He knows more about the vehicle than I do - I have just been passing on the photos.

I started to modify my last post and got interrupted.  I was going to comment on the very strange arrangement of the front fascia.  First, how it is separate from the front of the cab, and secondly how the radiator surround is just not in keeping with the rest of the stylish exterior. 

Would sure love to see it in real life. 

Jim
Title: Re: Name that "bus" Answer: Genesis (Thread updated)
Post by: Ed Hackenbruch on January 01, 2010, 09:06:28 AM
They are hanging out in a park in Benson Az. working on refurbishing it right now, and are supposed to be coming to Q-site for the gathering. :)