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Title: coolant/water fliter?
Post by: Adarian on October 07, 2009, 05:44:11 PM
Are all coolant/water filters sca filters?
If so how do you know the sca level they provide, if already installed on engine?
Title: Re: coolant/water fliter?
Post by: belfert on October 07, 2009, 07:54:10 PM
You can get filters without SCA charge.  I have one with no SCA charge.

There should a part number on the filter you have that you can check with the manufacturer.
Title: Re: coolant/water fliter?
Post by: Ncbob on October 08, 2009, 12:26:17 PM
I should think that the determining factor would be whether or not you have a wet sleeve engine. My 8V71 has a coolant filter which I change every year but I don't have to worry much because the Detroits of the 71 series are liner to block engines.

FWIW

NCbob
Title: Re: coolant/water fliter?
Post by: redbus on October 08, 2009, 12:51:28 PM
When do you NOT want the SCA charge.
Title: Re: coolant/water fliter?
Post by: belfert on October 08, 2009, 01:09:15 PM
You don't want a filter with SCA charge if you don't want your coolant to be under/overcharged with SCA.  I monitor my SCA level and add as necessary instead of the coolant filter adding a predetermined amount of SCA.
Title: Re: coolant/water fliter?
Post by: TomC on October 08, 2009, 04:01:37 PM
L10 is a wet cylinder liner engine that should be closely monitored as to acidity levels in the coolant to keep the liners from getting pitted.  Simple litmus paper dipping into the coolant will tell the story.  You can add the SCA by pouring directly into the radiator, or by slow release through the water filter.  Good Luck, TomC
Title: Re: coolant/water fliter?
Post by: John316 on October 08, 2009, 06:28:55 PM
Is our S60 a "fragile" engine?

God bless.

John

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Title: Re: coolant/water fliter?
Post by: TomC on October 08, 2009, 10:40:14 PM
Not carefully watched, a Series 60 also can fall prey to cavitation pitting and electrolysis.  I've seen Series 60 with as little as 200,000 miles on a new truck that had to be rebuilt because of neglect of the cooling system.  Good Luck, TomC
Title: Re: coolant/water fliter?
Post by: Adarian on October 09, 2009, 08:34:25 PM
Learned that the filter is a pencool nf3000, by Penray. Went to the website, it didn't contain very much info.
Title: Re: coolant/water fliter?
Post by: belfert on October 09, 2009, 08:58:15 PM
The website listing for the NF-3000 is pretty clear about it having a pint of SCA.  There is an NF-2999 that has no SCA.
Title: Re: coolant/water fliter?
Post by: Adarian on October 09, 2009, 10:43:29 PM
All Pencool 3000 Cooling System Filters combine a high-quality, long-life Pencool Filter with one pint or more of Pencool 3000 Cooling System Corrosion Inhibitor and Coolant Stabilizer. It's the only high performance filter that can stop coolant gel formation.

What does 1 pint or more mean?
Does it mix in all at once or is it timed released?

This web site
http://www.imcool.com/articles/antifreeze-coolant/SCA-Part1.htm (http://www.imcool.com/articles/antifreeze-coolant/SCA-Part1.htm)

says 1 pint treats 4 gallons, I think the L10 capacity is more than 4 gallons.
From the reading it doesn't seem like DCA4 and Pencool 3000 should be mixed.




Title: Re: coolant/water fliter?
Post by: John316 on October 10, 2009, 03:27:45 PM
Thanks Tom. That is what I thought. I hope we won't have any issues. What are some of the "trouble" signs?

God bless.

John

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Title: Re: coolant/water fliter?
Post by: TomC on October 11, 2009, 10:19:55 PM
About the only time you know you might have trouble is when one of the cylinder liners lets loose into the coolant and the combustion chamber pumps pressure into the cooling system causing the radiator to loose coolant.  It is easy to test for this also, by taking a gas reading off the radiator.  Good Luck, TomC