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Title: Route Question???
Post by: JackConrad on September 05, 2009, 02:57:02 PM
We are presently sitting in a campground near York, PA.  We plan to leave here on Tuesday to head to Richmond, VA area.  Looking at the map, it looks like I-83 to I-95. There is a bypass around Baltimore (696)and DC (495).  What can I expect traffic wise on this route?  Any alternate suggestions?  Jack
Title: Re: Route Question???
Post by: Runcutter on September 05, 2009, 03:37:29 PM
Jack, I work that area fairly often.  The Baltimore/Washington area 95, 495, 695 does provide you the shortest route from York, but it depends on your appetite for pain. 

If you're looking for the most direct route, you have it.  Or, you can work your way west, through Gettysburg (worth a stop), and grab 81 south.  From the Staunton, VA area, you have a couple of options to Richmond.  I'm very familiar with 81, it's a pretty decent drive.  I know nothing about the link between 81 and Richmond.

Arthur
Title: Re: Route Question???
Post by: BG6 on September 05, 2009, 03:40:22 PM
The wider the loop you can make to the west of DC, the happier you will be.  Figure on losing AT LEAST an hour to traffic through that area.  The only place I've been which could be counted on to be any worse was the Chicago Permajam (the section of Interstate between the Indiana state line and the toll booths on the south end of Chicago).
Title: Re: Route Question???
Post by: Van on September 05, 2009, 04:21:32 PM
Jack, I think if you hit the Dc area after 7 pm you'l do fine,middle lane always works for me doing the loop between the rush hours.YMMV Good luck :)
Title: Re: Route Question???
Post by: oldmansax on September 05, 2009, 05:55:35 PM
Jack,

What has been said about I-95  is about right. If you take that route, it's just driving...nothing to see, hardly anywhere to stop. As my Dad used to say,"You'll be wore out to a hand-hold" by the time you get to Richmond.

If you have time, there are two other routes to consider, although, unless I was REALLY in a hurry, I would not do the trip all in one day. Both routes are really scenic and offer lots of places to spend (waste) an hour or two,

You can take Rt. 30 over to Gettysburg. That is about the worst road you will have to drive on either alternate route. Once in Gettysburg, you can pick up Rt. 15 & run it all the way to Rt. 17 which will take you back to I-95.

The longer route would be to stay on Rt 30 to I-81 south, then pick up Rt 17 south at Winchester back to I-95. There is one little mountain at Paris, not much but Rt. 17 does turn right at the bottom. Don't miss the turn.

You can stay also on I-81 to Strasburg & take I-66 over to 17 which will miss the mountain. All pretty good driving and really pretty.

Whatever you do, HAVE FUN!

TOM
Title: Re: Route Question???
Post by: steve5B on September 05, 2009, 07:19:15 PM

    Jack,


  Off the subject, how is the new re-power working?

   
  Steve 5B.....
Title: Re: Route Question???
Post by: Hi yo silver on September 05, 2009, 07:30:26 PM
Jack,
If you do decide to go through Gettysburg, if you have the time, by all means visit the new Civil War Cyclorama.  The Cyclorama and museum are in the same building, which is new, and are extremely impressive and interesting.  Just park in the bus area and you won't even have to unhook the toad. 

From there, I-81 south to I-64 east to Richmond is the best route, in my opinion.  As always if you're coming through the Roanoke area give us a call if ya got time for coffee.   540.5 nine 1. 5 two 19.  Best to you and Paula.  Have fun!
Dennis   
Title: Re: Route Question???
Post by: gfcgfc1 on September 05, 2009, 11:05:47 PM
Hi Jack ,I-95  and 695 and 495 are all o.k. as stated.Definatelytry to 'time' your passage thru D.C. 95 / 495. Morning and Especially evening rush our challenges Los Angeles as worst traffic. If you want /or need to stop anywhere near Washington .C. or even Baltimore or Northern Va. I am nearby and would really enjoy buying you a cup of coffee.I know about the Dec get together and would like to attend but I'm normally in Arizona.480 306 3598 cell if you need anything feel free to call.Have a great trip ...GFC
Title: Re: Route Question???
Post by: JackConrad on September 06, 2009, 05:10:59 AM
     We spent 3 days in Gettysburg touring the battlefields, Cyclorama and museums before moving to York/Lancaster area. Gettysburg is a great area for anyone interested in American History. We toured the Hershey factory yesterday morning and kayaked on the Susquehana River in the Afternoon. We are going to the Amish area near Lancaster today and to an American Indian Pow Wow on Monday. We will try to hit Baltimore and especially DC between rush hours.  Thanks for all the tips.  Jack
Title: Re: Route Question???
Post by: John316 on September 06, 2009, 05:15:15 AM
Jack,

I agree with what was said. If you hit DC in rush hour, well then you just pick your place to park tell everything is freed up. We haven't had a problem doing the big cities between rush hours. The problem is the we usually happen to run into a city during rush hour :( Arrrggghhh.

Anyways. DC is usually fine between rush hours. We even did NYC between rush hours, and did just fine (between the daylight rush hours...the bronx looks interesting during the day, driving by on the interstate :o).

God bless,

John
Title: Re: Route Question???
Post by: JackConrad on September 06, 2009, 05:18:03 AM
Quote from: steve5B on September 05, 2009, 07:19:15 PM
Jack,
      Off the subject, how is the new re-power working?
Steve 5B.....

Repower is working great!  We got a chance to use the Jakes crossing the Alleghenies. Boy, Do they make a difference.  Jack
Title: Re: Route Question???
Post by: bevans6 on September 06, 2009, 05:22:07 AM
You're passing through my favorite part of the country, I envy you!

Perfect time of year, too.

Brian
Title: Re: Route Question???
Post by: bottomacher on September 06, 2009, 05:40:09 AM
If you take the I-81 route, you can pick up I-64 at Waynesboro-Staunton area, quite beautiful (Skyline Drive, Blue Ridge Parkway) . Then through Charlottesville, and Monticello, where you can observe Jefferson's work, which was extensive and impressive. Then on 64 into richmond. If you have time, Williamsburg is just an hour east of Richmond, and it is  still worth the ride, though more commercial that it used to be in the good old days. Central Virginia is a good place to get lost for a couple of days if you have the time; a lot of our nation's history was born there.
Title: Re: Route Question???
Post by: JackConrad on September 06, 2009, 05:54:54 AM
Quote from: gfcgfc1 on September 05, 2009, 11:05:47 PM
Hi Jack,
     I am nearby and would really enjoy buying you a cup of coffee.  480 306 3598 cell if you need anything feel free to call.Have a great trip ...GFC

What exit are you close to? We might be able to stop and have a cup of coffee at a restaurant/truck stop near the exit.  Jack
Title: Re: Route Question???
Post by: Runcutter on September 06, 2009, 07:13:18 AM
Jack, since you'll be in the Lancaster area, remember the Strasburg Railroad (and the Railroad Museum of Pennsylvania) are nearby.  Definitely worth a visit.  Strasburg is the oldest continually operating common carrier railroad in the US.  Known in the railfan community as a class steam operation.

Arthur
Title: Re: Route Question???
Post by: gfcgfc1 on September 06, 2009, 12:18:25 PM
Hello Jack ,I'm near exit 31 .But I can meet any where that is convenient for ya'll. Where you find convenient is far more important than I ,I am using a little econobox for transportation here. Anywhere that works for you or there is always next time.Thank you ,Glenn 480 306 3598 cell  Safe travels.....GFC
Title: Re: Route Question???
Post by: JackConrad on September 06, 2009, 02:40:47 PM
Quote from: gfcgfc1 on September 06, 2009, 12:18:25 PM
Hello Jack ,I'm near exit 31 .But I can meet any where that is convenient for ya'll. Where you find convenient is far more important than I ,I am using a little econobox for transportation here. Anywhere that works for you or there is always next time.Thank you ,Glenn 480 306 3598 cell  Safe travels.....GFC

Is that exit 31 in VA?  Jack
Title: Re: Route Question???
Post by: gfcgfc1 on September 06, 2009, 06:11:17 PM
Hi Jack sorry 'bout that . I am off the 495 in Maryland exit 31 Georgia AVE. But I am able to travel to a more convenient locale.Thanks GFC
Title: Re: Route Question???
Post by: DMoedave on September 06, 2009, 06:30:21 PM
Hey Jack and Paula, i would take Runcutters route, its the only way to go. There is tooo much stress on 95!!! And the railroad museum is a MUST as is the auto/ Bus museum in hershey. Have a safe trip see you in Dec.
Title: Re: Route Question???
Post by: buswarrior on September 07, 2009, 06:44:25 AM
I have parked the coach right on the Mall in DC in the evening, and walked both ways, Capitol to Lincoln.

Kinda neat looking down the Mall from Lincoln's toes and seeing the coach parked on the cross street way down near the Capitol.

The Mall and it's monuments have a completely different character in the dark, that most tourists never get to see.

Safety?  There are folks about, single joggers of both genders, so no worries for a busnut.

happy coaching!
buswarrior

Title: Re: Route Question???
Post by: blue_goose on September 07, 2009, 08:51:50 AM
Jack
We came down I-81 last week, it was bad.  From where I-84 comes into I-81 there are miles of construction.  We lost about 5 hr with the detour's and one lane construction. 
Jack
Title: Re: Route Question???
Post by: Hobe on September 07, 2009, 01:45:17 PM
Hi Jack,  You are in my favorite place. Va. And Pa. there is lot to see there and the people are great. If you still want to come down through Wash. Do it on a week end , Then you can drive right thhrough. Fred
Title: Re: Route Question???
Post by: Slow Rider on September 08, 2009, 09:43:55 AM
Hi Jack,

If you do come down 95 we are at exit 156 Woodbridge.  Would be glad to meet you for coffee or if you need any help I will be glad to do what ever I can.  seven oh three  eight six nine  six three nine four.

Frank
Title: Re: Route Question???
Post by: JackConrad on September 08, 2009, 03:41:15 PM
Well, we decided to take I-83, I-695, I-95, I-495 from York, PA to Richmond area.  No problems.  Moderate traffic and no delays.  However, I definately would not try this during rush hour.  Jack
Title: Re: Route Question???
Post by: John316 on September 08, 2009, 04:11:49 PM
Jack,

That is the exact route that we usually take. Usually it goes well, but there has been a time or two, when it gets slow. For example, like the time that we were the "first responders" to a injury (almost fatal, but she lived thanks to seatbelt, airbags, and guard rail) accident. That took some extra time, but usually it goes pretty well.

God bless,

John