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Title: water softener or snake oil?
Post by: Merlin on December 28, 2008, 08:09:06 PM
Does anyone have firsthand experience with a "Water-King"?

http://www.waterkingusa.com/WK-RV.htm

Looks a tad puny for the price of about $350.  A cheap plastic tool box with a transmitter and cheap transformer, is about all you get.  But IF ... it does work as stated, then maybe it is a viable substitute for a salt charged softener.  Opinions ...?

MDM
Title: Re: water softener or snake oil?
Post by: Sojourner on December 28, 2008, 08:28:53 PM
Water King How it work (http://www.lifescience.co.uk/PDFs/Softerwater1.pdf)

Life Science (http://www.lifescience.co.uk/)

This is new on me.

Thank you for the link

Sojourn for Christ, Gerald
Title: Re: water softener or snake oil?
Post by: Sean on December 28, 2008, 08:51:25 PM
The jury is out, but their claims are largely unsubstantiated.

http://www.chem1.com/CQ/aquacrack.html#WK (http://www.chem1.com/CQ/aquacrack.html#WK)

Many other vendors are also in this market, with similar (unsubstantiated) devices and claims.  Water King may simply be the first to package their product in a toolbox, which I am pretty sure sells at Wal-Mart for $2.88, to target the RV market.

Interestingly, in an RV that moves from water source to water source, it would be impossible to verify whether the device was helping any or not.

-Sean
http://OurOdyssey.BlogSpot.com
Title: Re: water softener or snake oil?
Post by: Tony LEE on December 29, 2008, 01:48:19 AM
"Technical Data:

The WK-RV transmits a series of low-frequency random sequenced radio waves ranging from 1 to 10kHZ, pre-selected and controlled by micro-chip technology. A 110/9V CSA/UL approved transformer is included with each WK-RV. Each WK-RV weighs approximately 3 pounds and measures 13 inches long, 7 inches wide and 5 inches high. "

I think the technical data speaks for itself.
Title: Re: water softener or snake oil?
Post by: steve5B on December 29, 2008, 05:29:39 AM



     The best thing that you can use to sofften water (general cleaning, showers, I wouldn't drink tho! ) is TPPP.

     Tetra-potasium pyro phosphate.   1 LB  - 500 Gal water.  This product is in Calgon!


    Steve 5B.....
Title: Re: water softener or snake oil?
Post by: jjrbus on December 29, 2008, 05:43:38 AM
Reguardless of all the technical data and testimonials. I am not paying $350 for something in a $3 toolbox!!
Title: Re: water softener or snake oil?
Post by: paulcjhastings on December 29, 2008, 06:14:50 AM
This is the same snake oil used in the magnetic/electric fuel treaters, often with wild fuel mileage claims. When I was working for a friend(Kinetico dealer) we bought one(not this brand) to try out it was completely worthless.

You are better off buying a tank filled with resin(ion exchange) that you just manually recharge w/ salt occasionally. 
Title: Re: water softener or snake oil?
Post by: gus on December 29, 2008, 08:49:45 PM
Tony,

That technical data says nothing??
Title: Re: water softener or snake oil?
Post by: JohnEd on December 29, 2008, 10:20:14 PM
Gus,

I think that was his point. ::)  Sarcasm! :-* ;D ;D ;D

John
Title: Re: water softener or snake oil?
Post by: steve5B on December 30, 2008, 06:59:50 AM


  One made here in Indianapolis , (easywater.com) seems to work ok from what i understand. A little pricey tho, for home use.

 
Title: Re: water softener or snake oil?
Post by: boogiethecat on December 30, 2008, 08:02:03 AM
I used these all the time and they work really well!!  Oh... that was when I lived in a different universe where magic was the operative force and that stuff they call "science" was bunk...  :)