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Title: Nov. BC Mag. - "Mixing Water and Gas"
Post by: rv_safetyman on December 03, 2008, 07:06:08 PM
Let me say this right up front, I am not starting this thread to bash MAK or BC Mag.

Having said that, I really need a reality check here.  In the Nov. issue there is an article about installing H2O based hydrogen generating cells in a motorhome to yield what is implied as significantly better mileage.  Another implication is that this a quickly spreading grass roots phenomenon.

The website (http://www.hhowater4gas.com/) is quite interesting.  One claim is doubled mileage (61 MPG) in a Toyota.  Looks like they really want you to buy their manuals for about a C note.

I have been know to be gullible, but I can not in my wildest dream imagine that this kind of system would generate anywhere near enough hydrogen to make any sort of "improvement" in even the smallest of engines. 

Lets' suppose that you could generate a consistent, long term, supply of hydrogen; I am not sure how you would regulate the flow into the engine.  If you pass that test, I would be very concerned about damage to the engine.

What am I missing here?

Not your typical Myers/Conrad/Galey article.

Jim
Title: Re: Nov. BC Mag. - "Mixing Water and Gas"
Post by: white-eagle on December 03, 2008, 07:30:08 PM
Jim,

this article was already discussed ad nauseum on nov 13, 14 in 2 separate threads, and hydrogen as a fuel in about 5 or 6 others that i found over the past year.

i think the long and short of the concensus agrees with you.  ;D
Title: Re: Nov. BC Mag. - "Mixing Water and Gas"
Post by: kyle4501 on December 03, 2008, 07:32:05 PM
Quote from: rv_safetyman on December 03, 2008, 07:06:08 PM
What am I missing here?

wishfull thinking?  :o

Or, maybe, the free lunch . . . .  ::)
Title: Re: Nov. BC Mag. - "Mixing Water and Gas"
Post by: rv_safetyman on December 03, 2008, 08:25:38 PM
oops, should have done a search.  I thought I had been following most threads - guess not >:(

To tie things together, here are the two threads Kyle mentioned:

http://www.busconversions.com/bbs/index.php?topic=10180.0

http://www.busconversions.com/bbs/index.php?topic=8250.0

Sorry, Jim
Title: Re: Nov. BC Mag. - "Mixing Water and Gas"
Post by: niles500 on December 03, 2008, 11:51:52 PM
Jim, here's probably the best independent real world info done by PM - they're promising a future dyno test - No big hurry as they know what the results will be -

http://www.popularmechanics.com/automotive/how_to/4276846.html?series=19

If we could only raise ole Smoky Yunick up from the great beyond, as he'd tell 'em what for - I hate to see people waste their money and ruin their mill over these POS - FWIW



Title: Room for Rebuttal in Jan BCM
Post by: JeromeBettis on December 04, 2008, 12:02:15 AM
BCM has reserved space for the January issue for rebuttal on the controversy surrounding Mixing Water and Gas.  We have already accepted submissions, but if you'd like to "pile on" feel free.  Submissions can be sent in an email or as an attachment to chad@busconversions.com

Thanks,

Chad
Art Director, BCM
Title: Re: Nov. BC Mag. - "Mixing Water and Gas"
Post by: HighTechRedneck on December 07, 2008, 06:00:21 AM
The remainder of this thread was removed in accordance with the Forum Civility Rules.

http://www.busconversions.com/bbs/index.php?topic=9875.0